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Aug 1, 2023Liked by Modern Discontent

I'd say it would be more worrisome when the alpha gal is your wife! LOL

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Boo! And on a Monday night, with this crowd?!

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Aug 1, 2023Liked by Modern Discontent

Yep, maybe a poor joke, but I just had to!

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I think we're allowed crass jokes from time to time! I honestly was thinking of that Treehouse of Horror episode where they ate the kids when I mentioned cannibalism being possible in those with AGS!

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Aug 1, 2023Liked by Modern Discontent

I could be oversimplifying but IgE essentially is part of an immune "extended use or exhaustion" signal.

So evolutionarily we have the antibody response to meat as a protective mechanism (meat from kills left out, not cured correctly, poisioned, etc), so in a sense, our immune system treats it as a possible source of infection, then turns it down when it's deemed "safe". But because of this, too much can also trigger inflammatory activation, hence why ultimately carnivore diets in the long-term show detrimental effects immunologically and increased aging. Small amounts can be beneficial, while as always the dose makes the poison. BTJMO.😉🤷‍♀️

My understanding of the lone star tick specifically, is that it was a gain of function accident, based on Mikovits book.

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I don't think that would quite work for the body to do a check and leave alone. When meat spoils protein structures become denatured, and so the immunogenic epitopes may no longer be present. It's also not as if the body can dispose of bad meat while leaving us alone as well. I think it's more that our body is likely just producing antibodies most things at any given time. Our bodies may produce antibodies against the asparagus we have while eating our immunogenic, alpha-gal riddled steaks, and we are generally fine.

I'd like to see the detriments of the carnivore diet. I wouldn't think we'd have longitudinal data already given how it's been adopted more widely within the past few years. I'd be interested if you have any studies on the matter. I think most of these diets may be a bit overblow and convoluted, but I'd also like to see evidence in any way for or against these diets.

Do you know how she argued the lone star tick was a gain of function? I feel as if that phrase has been overused, and so anything can be labeled as "gain of function" without meaning much in the end.

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Aug 1, 2023·edited Aug 1, 2023

Food-for-thought? dept...

'The World Health Organization classified processed meat as a Class 1 carcinogen and red meat as a Class 2A carcinogen'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHjndyKAZT8

The Epic Study

Cyrus Khambatta, PhD

is a cofounder of Mastering Diabetes

and is an internationally recognized nutrition and fitness coach

who has been living with type 1 diabetes since 2002.

Does Eating Meat Increase Your Risk of Diabetes? | Mastering Diabetes

https://www.masteringdiabetes.org/scientific-evidence/

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9204183/

The Relationship Between Plant-Based Diet and Risk of Digestive System Cancers: A Meta-Analysis Based

on 3,059,009 Subjects

'What are the headline findings

The big thing is that plant-based diets played a protective role against digestive cancers. In the cohort studies, those consuming a plant-based diet had an 18% lower likelihood of developing digestive cancer, with statistically significant reductions in pancreatic, colorectal, stomach, liver and esophageal cancer.

Similarly, in the case-control studies they saw a 30% lower likelihood of developing digestive cancer and the same reductions in the aforementioned cancers. Chemoprevention! There's our word in action. Feels good, doesn't it.'

--Dr. Will Bulsiewicz,MD

https://theplantfedgut.com/about/

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https://robynchuter.substack.com/p/ketogenic-diets-part-6-the-gut-microbiome

Ketogenic diets: Part 6 - The gut microbiome

ROBYN CHUTER

NOV 17, 2022

Previously in this series, I’ve discussed the origins of the ketogenic diet and the biological role of ketone bodies (Part 1), whether living in a state of ketosis is normal and natural (Part 2), whether ketogenic diets are effective for weight loss (Part 3) and insulin resistance and diabetes (Part 4), and whether ketogenic diets can cure cancer (Part 5). Now, let’s examine the impact of the high fat, low carbohydrate diet-style on the gut microbiome, and the health implications of long-term ketogenic diets...

Inflammatory bowel disease, obesity, type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and cancer are just some of the diseases that have been linked to imbalanced gut microbiota.

The overall diversity and specific composition of our gut microbiota are affected by numerous dietary components, including total protein and proportions of protein from animal vs plant sources; total fat and proportion of saturated vs unsaturated fat; fibre; resistant starch; polyphenols; and sugar...

A high fat diet increases intestinal permeability – that is, it causes leaky gut, by turning off the genes that code for proteins that comprise tight junctions, the ‘seals’ between neighbouring intestinal cells. Tight junctions are intended to stop unwanted or dangerous gut contents – such as undigested proteins and bacterial toxins – from leaking through the gut wall and into the bloodstream.

One of those bacterial toxins is endotoxin, a component of the cell walls of gram negative bacteria (including Bacteroides, Alistipes, and Bilophila). Saturated fat intake, in particular, increases the absorption of endotoxin from the gut into the bloodstream. The presence of endotoxin in the blood (endotoxaemia) is a powerful trigger of inflammation, and is associated with reduced glucose tolerance (which can eventually lead to diabetes), body weight gain, fat mass development and oxidative stress.

People suffering from major depressive disorder have been found to have higher levels of serum antibodies against endotoxin than non-depressed people, indicating leaky gut and an immune response to endotoxaemia...

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Re Mikovits was particular in the details from Fort Deitrick acting as unofficial biolab and distribution.

Re the meat- I agree with you, I didn't explain it very well😉 not all gifted writers.

Re the carnivore diets, high fat diets are old diets revisited. The data is there but quickest, most succinct discussion on it would be Ray Peat's work and Dr Doug Wallace's work on mitochondrial function. Combine that with the literature on photobiomodulati o n and circadian rhythm. 👍👍🤗

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Interesting, the two books I've seen mention Plum Island. I suppose it's people trying to nail Fort Deitrick for all sorts of things. Even if they are doing questionable research it doesn't necessarily mean that they are related to Lyme Disease and the microbe responsible for it, but I'd have to look at the tie-in details to make a more researched opinion.

For the old diets becoming new diets that seems to be the case with keto which is somewhat a rework of Atkins. I think there's more to diet than what gets remarked. I just find it frustrating that any mention of keto is associated with "sugar bad, sugar deadly". It may be the case, but I'd like proper evidence of the strengths of keto.

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Ray Peat supports the carnivore diet, just adding fruit, though weirdly he likes orange juice, which is a no-no from me, as it's so much sugar for nothing.

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So I read Ernie Rockwell's comment, and it seems rather interesting. I suppose the book he cited (and apparently another book called Lab 257) tell of some possible work being done with weaponized microbes. That may be something I will look into at a future time if I get the time to read them.

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Where did you get the idea that carnivore diets cause aging? Cos I just watched a vid of an 80 yr old woman who's been carnivore for 60 years and she looks about 50

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Carnivore diet puts you in ketosis. That can be great for obesity or epilepsy and only for short term. Staying in ketosis for the long term, is hard on mitochondria and ends up wearing them out.

I don't know about that particular lady, if she's lifting weights everyday and doing a few other things she could be engaging mitogenesis and building them faster than she's trashing them. There's other factors that could be contributing. 🤷‍♀️ without knowing her history/lifestyle etc.

Have a look at Dr Doug Wallace mitochondrial work, Ray Peat, even the king of ketosis- Dr Mercola has reversed his views. I respect that as he was committed to keto carnivore for decades!

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Aug 1, 2023·edited Aug 1, 2023

I asked the brain about Wallace.

"Dr. Douglas Wallace's work primarily focuses on mitochondrial genetics and dysfunction in relation to various diseases, and not specifically on the metabolic state of ketosis.

Ketosis is a metabolic state where the body uses ketone bodies for energy in place of glucose. This usually happens when carbohydrate intake is very low, such as in ketogenic diets or during prolonged fasting.

While it's generally recognized that the mitochondria play a significant role in the production of ketone bodies during ketosis, any specific views or comments from Dr. Wallace on the subject are not widely documented as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021.

In the context of mitochondrial health, it's been suggested by some researchers that ketogenic diets could potentially have beneficial effects due to the change in energy substrate, but this is a broad and active area of research. As always, it's important to consult with healthcare professionals before making significant changes to diet or lifestyle for health purposes."

Do you have anything more recent, where he says ketosis will kill ya?

(and why is the fit and healthy 81 year old rancher lady not dead yet, and at 81 looks younger than Mercola?)

Edit. So I found one of his studies and he is somewhat out of date, pushing the calorie-restriction thing. That's been somewhat discredited, at least in humans, plus carnivore is a fast-mimicking diet anyway.

He talks of how numerous diseases and cancers have exploded over the last 50 years (very true, along with obesity):

"Yet, the nature and frequency of genetic variants in the human population has not changed significantly in the past 50 years, even though the incidence of these diseases has climbed continuously. Therefore, it isn’t our genes that have changed; it is our environment, and the biggest environmental change that we have experienced is in our diet."

Yes - and the biggest change has been the movement AWAY from red meat, saturated animal fats such as lard and butter, AWAY from full-cream dairy, eggs, fish and other animal products, and TOWARDS 'vegetable oils', sugar in everything, fruit juice all year, and high-carb, low fat diets.

Try again?

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AI is fallible. It is not remotely a brain. And it's is frequently wrong and has been caught fabricating "research" and "references". It is a glorified calculator🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ GIGO all the way.

Dr Doug Wallace's work is so much more than AI describes, as is Ray Pears massive body of work. Mercola, while irritating is still good at his work. As for his shop, well thats his business, not mine so 🤷‍♀️.

If you want to get on the carnivore train, that's your business. If it makes you feel good and your comfortable in your understanding of its effects short/longterm. Even if you don't, your body, your choice😉 🤗

Still, food for thought.... Your position based on past evolutionary rationale, would be all perfectly relevant IF we lived in those times.We don't.

Our environment is completely alien compared to the theory.

To me it comes back to circadian rhythms and how your "eye clock" works, it's direct connection to the mitochondria- which HAS evolved with us, but only to a point- it still needs the molecules to get broken down to the most efficient pyruvate pathway, ultimately passing through the quantum ATP machine, and producing the most amount of energy, with least amount of damage. Ketones are a survival source. The body will rebound eventually, because it's always trying to get back to homeostasis. Yes over simplistic but it's all the time I'll take😉

As for the lady, maybe ask her directly😉 I'd be super curious to know if she's lifting weights🤗

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You can ask her yourself. To me plants are survival food, not for thriving

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Mercola is committed to whatever he can sell.

He can't sell that special, bioavailable form of red meat and salt that's SO much better than that nasty, toxic stuff you can buy in any neighborhood chemist or health store...

My mistake, she's been carnivore for 65 years : https://youtu.be/mnWdsEzx8F0

Yes, she leads an active life. Shouldn't we all?

Ray Peat favors a diet heavy in saturated fat and animal products, with the addition of some fruit (which is what I do, but not right now as I have another 6-7 lbs of fat to lose). He also favors fruit juice, which is an absolute no-no from me.

I'm not familiar with Wallace but I am familiar with the Wallace who was a correspondent with Darwin, and I have seen the evidence that we are apex-predators, evolved from carrion scavengers. Way, way back in time we could digest plants properly, but we haven't done that for a looooong time.

My experience of the carnivore diet before was 100% positive, with the downside being my belly really didn't like anything else. So this time I will maintain 2 pieces of fruit per week (when not slimming) and the occasional fermented low-oxalate vegetable.

Peat favors root vegetables, but no plant wants you to eat its root. Potatoes are outright poison without a lot of cooking for example, but as boiled spuds that have been drained of the water are low oxalate they're acceptable. On the other hand I don't need them, as the body produces glycogen by itself from protein and fat.

Our most natural and ideal food is what the body creates as for its own future storage - saturated animal fat. Add some salt and protein and you have everything you need.

Eating plants just makes life complicated, as you have to start mixing and matching them to counter the side effects of each other. It's easier to just avoid them in the first place.

Eating a mostly-meat diet is not a fad; it's what we did for millions of years before agriculture about 400 generations ago.

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Do you have the title for Dr. Judy Mikovits' book? Web searches turn up nothing; Mikovits has been memory holed by "fact-checkers" and mainstream news. Apparently, she must be onto something.

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Plague. I bought it when it came out a few years ago, but have a look at Abe books.

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Red meat is actually anti-aging... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igquiiHWg6U

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Jul 31, 2023Liked by Modern Discontent

My sis-in-law has this...she was a big meat eater before. She realized in 2018 that her 5 months of hives and rash were related to a tick bite.

I do wonder about the weaponization of ticks to stop us from wanting meat.

Can you imagine that this article came from CNN? The before times.

BTW, I skimmed this and your article, as my steak is ready

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/politics/lyme-disease-amendment-investigation/index.html

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Aug 1, 2023Liked by Modern Discontent

I recommend "Bitten" by Chris Newby, which documents her (+ husband) 3-year investigation into Lyme disease (they both got it). She discovered that it was created by USG GOF experiments, many of them in Montana. That this meat allergy syndrome, which is the wet dream of globalists/climate change hysterics, might be a GOF creation would be par for the course. That doesn't make it any less horrible than all the rest of what they are doing.

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Thanks for the recommendation. It appears Lab 257 is also a book citing similar research. I'm not sure to what degree an allergy can be weaponized, so for now I'm considering the weaponization of ticks to be something interesting to research, while the meat allergy may just be an unfortunate consequence of us being human.

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Well, I hope you enjoyed your steak sans any alpha-gal allergies! I'm sorry about your sister in law, it actually seems like a rather debilitating disease since you're essentially getting rid of a ton of different foods, and even certain drugs need to be looked at with some care.

In regards to the tick fear, it's a bit more meant in jest and just something I heard. Lyme disease appears to be caused by a bacteria, but if supposedly a gain of function research we'd need to see a clear connection. Like I said above, I think we tend to overuse gain of function to refer to anything but that dilutes its meaning.

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OK, 'bioweapon.'

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Just thinking loud, is the ARTIFICIAL meat produced in the labs, you now, the one sponsored/financed by Mr. Gates, also full of that galactose-α-1,3-galactose..? Maybe coincidentally not, then finally all could/should/must eat it, what a salvation!

Little bit more about Mr. Gates and his ticks at:

https://americanfaith.com/bill-gates-funded-research-into-genetically-engineered-cattle-ticks-now-450000-americans-have-red-meat-allergies-from-alpha-gal-syndrome-caused-by-tick-bites/

That venome tip is great. But gorilla for lunch? No, thank you...

Also those who used to produce proteins in biochemistry know the necessity of an INDUCTION of the bacterial culture by IPTG, these days also with galactose..., much simpler way, apparently. ANd more questions show up when seeing this issue on researchgate, for example:

Please Share Protocol for transformation ~9KB CRISPR Plasmid Using dh5alpha cells?

Last but not least, the universally injected covid Spike is a GLYCOprotein, full of Asn's (N in one letter code) attached to NAG's and other glycosylating agents...

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SAAT (Soliman Auricular Acupuncture Treatment- nothing like regular acupuncture) treats alpha gal - I know a couple of people who tried it and it worked for them!

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35003502/

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A bit sad? A BIT sad?

As someone who has transitioned to our absolutely ideal diet, which is red fatty meat and water, with a dash of salt, you have no idea how terrible this is....

No, I am NOT joking.

I did the carnivore diet a year or so before covid, and thrived on it, losing weight, clearing a snuffly nose, curing joint pain and generally doing great. I let myself slip back into 'normal' foods, and slowly all the usual problems and weight returned. I've done more research this year and have decided to just go back to it, permanently.

Fiber just clogs you up and reduces absorption of nutrients, plants have anti-nutrients and all kinds of nasties and should be treated as drugs, with side effects, rather than a staple food.

Fruit is OK but understand it makes you fat, so avoid if slimming and moderate, unless you actually want to get fat for the winter.

I am seriously wondering at this stage is Gates has anything to do with these ticks?

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