Ironically, Dore was live-broadcasting a review of John Campbell's youtube review of ivermectin studies as your post went out, confusing his newer viewers (Dore's footprint has exploded thanks to his anti-narrative Ukraine takes).
If you haven't seen it already, Yogendra and Bruce Patterson both discussed the current state of their Long Covid research a few weeks ago on Mobeen's channel. As fast as things are moving, I am pretty sure it's still the most up-to-date glimpse into the Long Covid issue (until the new results Patterson alludes to finally post to preprint) - https://youtu.be/XX30o9GOQiE
I think he's been gaining in popularity for at least criticizing the left for not being actual progressives. He kind of gained in popularity with many Trump voters and disaffected progressives in that matter but then his outspokenness against Fauci and forced vaccines definitely pushed him as well.
I'll try to take a look at it. Two hours is quite the task but it will be interesting to see what they have to say. Thanks!
Thank you for picking up this topic. I have been working with two people who struggle with this syndrome and was struck especially by the 80’s information and do remember it actually. Ironically, one of these women was given disability status, not because of her extreme physical findings, but for her behavior disorder. Whatever! She is unable to work. She had Covid-19 in 2020 with lingering problems and thought getting the vaccine would help. After each dose her previous problems became more exaggerated. She elected to try ivermectin since none of her physicians had offered anything to help. None had done a physical exam including those at the post Covid clinic even though some of her problems were visible. If I did not have before and after photos, I would be skeptical of reports of her improvements. Within 24hrs she had dramatic improvements and more continued to occur. I knew her to have behavioral issues before this, but doubt they would account for her Raynaud’s hands, Ehlers Danlos-like hypermobility, or urinary bladder retention to mention a few. After a course of IVM, bladder function normalized, her hands are normal color, and her musculoskeletal system was responding to therapy. She powers through trying to get back to normal; others would have given up faced with the same issues.
The second woman saw some relief from her POTS symptoms after a short course of IVM, but her fatigue and cardiac symptoms persist. “I’ve aged 10 years this year.” She continues her EMT teaching position despite it all.
People such as these need physicians who are curious enough to listen, do actual physical exams and address each set of unique problems appropriately. Too many “systems” physicians practice cookie cutter EMR medicine clicking through the drop down boxes. Mental health is impacted by impaired physical health no doubt. Every condition has a psychological component.
Thankfully there are a few physicians who have found diagnostic labs which help direct therapies. Dr Been has YouTube videos addressing these patients. https://youtu.be/XX30o9GOQiE
The frustrating part remains. If people are treated early, hospitalizations and long term consequences (death or disability) could be avoided. We must continue to press for early treatment using safe, effective repurposed drugs to reduce mortality and prevent permanent disability. We must seek out physicians who care to practice the art and science of healing.
I've heard that "hysteria" was attributed to everything, especially when it came to women so I'm not too surprised that this line of thinking made its way into modern medicine as well (at least in some extent).
Dr. Malone made the same remarks. He though that getting the vaccine would help with his long COVID symptoms. Not only did it not help but this talking point apparently went away. How the vaccines were expected to help I am not sure but it should have at least raised questions to this certainty in helping aid with long COVID.
There are so many diverse symptoms that I've decided to take a very broad approach to listing them in my next post. There's really no way of capturing all of the possible symptoms. It's all quite strange but I'm glad that they were at least able to treat their symptoms.
With how many different symptoms there are patients definitely need someone who is able to tailor treatment options to fit their symptoms and needs. This clearly cannot be treated with a broad, one size fits all approach.
Unfortunately, I feel like early treatment will never be addressed properly, especially with PAXLOVID coming out soon and the "end" of COVID drawing near.
Thank you for providing first-hand accounts about people who have experienced long COVID from both the infection and the vaccines. I think more stories like that are needed to be shared if we really want to get to the bottom of what's going on.
I concur early treatment will not become common place until common sense returns, if ever. As a an RN in The Advocacy Network on Telegram, we answer questions put to us to decimate information not only for Covid-19, but any lay questions regarding health and wellness or navigating the current medical complex. It is a relief to have means to still help those being proactive for themselves or families.
I admire your ability to read so much and distill it so well. Thank you! ☺️
It's good to hear of people actually trying to practice medicine! There's so much more to health than taking a pill. I wish more people understood that with COVID so I'm quite shocked that nothing of the sort happened (at least here in America).
These posts are quite broad but I hope they still provide some good information to people!
Oh boy, I clicked on an article that's over 100 pages! Not sure how that will go hahaha thank you I will look into it and see what I can find. I will try to find remain reserved in my analysis.
Ironically, Dore was live-broadcasting a review of John Campbell's youtube review of ivermectin studies as your post went out, confusing his newer viewers (Dore's footprint has exploded thanks to his anti-narrative Ukraine takes).
If you haven't seen it already, Yogendra and Bruce Patterson both discussed the current state of their Long Covid research a few weeks ago on Mobeen's channel. As fast as things are moving, I am pretty sure it's still the most up-to-date glimpse into the Long Covid issue (until the new results Patterson alludes to finally post to preprint) - https://youtu.be/XX30o9GOQiE
I think he's been gaining in popularity for at least criticizing the left for not being actual progressives. He kind of gained in popularity with many Trump voters and disaffected progressives in that matter but then his outspokenness against Fauci and forced vaccines definitely pushed him as well.
I'll try to take a look at it. Two hours is quite the task but it will be interesting to see what they have to say. Thanks!
Thank you for picking up this topic. I have been working with two people who struggle with this syndrome and was struck especially by the 80’s information and do remember it actually. Ironically, one of these women was given disability status, not because of her extreme physical findings, but for her behavior disorder. Whatever! She is unable to work. She had Covid-19 in 2020 with lingering problems and thought getting the vaccine would help. After each dose her previous problems became more exaggerated. She elected to try ivermectin since none of her physicians had offered anything to help. None had done a physical exam including those at the post Covid clinic even though some of her problems were visible. If I did not have before and after photos, I would be skeptical of reports of her improvements. Within 24hrs she had dramatic improvements and more continued to occur. I knew her to have behavioral issues before this, but doubt they would account for her Raynaud’s hands, Ehlers Danlos-like hypermobility, or urinary bladder retention to mention a few. After a course of IVM, bladder function normalized, her hands are normal color, and her musculoskeletal system was responding to therapy. She powers through trying to get back to normal; others would have given up faced with the same issues.
The second woman saw some relief from her POTS symptoms after a short course of IVM, but her fatigue and cardiac symptoms persist. “I’ve aged 10 years this year.” She continues her EMT teaching position despite it all.
People such as these need physicians who are curious enough to listen, do actual physical exams and address each set of unique problems appropriately. Too many “systems” physicians practice cookie cutter EMR medicine clicking through the drop down boxes. Mental health is impacted by impaired physical health no doubt. Every condition has a psychological component.
Thankfully there are a few physicians who have found diagnostic labs which help direct therapies. Dr Been has YouTube videos addressing these patients. https://youtu.be/XX30o9GOQiE
The frustrating part remains. If people are treated early, hospitalizations and long term consequences (death or disability) could be avoided. We must continue to press for early treatment using safe, effective repurposed drugs to reduce mortality and prevent permanent disability. We must seek out physicians who care to practice the art and science of healing.
I've heard that "hysteria" was attributed to everything, especially when it came to women so I'm not too surprised that this line of thinking made its way into modern medicine as well (at least in some extent).
Dr. Malone made the same remarks. He though that getting the vaccine would help with his long COVID symptoms. Not only did it not help but this talking point apparently went away. How the vaccines were expected to help I am not sure but it should have at least raised questions to this certainty in helping aid with long COVID.
There are so many diverse symptoms that I've decided to take a very broad approach to listing them in my next post. There's really no way of capturing all of the possible symptoms. It's all quite strange but I'm glad that they were at least able to treat their symptoms.
With how many different symptoms there are patients definitely need someone who is able to tailor treatment options to fit their symptoms and needs. This clearly cannot be treated with a broad, one size fits all approach.
Unfortunately, I feel like early treatment will never be addressed properly, especially with PAXLOVID coming out soon and the "end" of COVID drawing near.
Thank you for providing first-hand accounts about people who have experienced long COVID from both the infection and the vaccines. I think more stories like that are needed to be shared if we really want to get to the bottom of what's going on.
I concur early treatment will not become common place until common sense returns, if ever. As a an RN in The Advocacy Network on Telegram, we answer questions put to us to decimate information not only for Covid-19, but any lay questions regarding health and wellness or navigating the current medical complex. It is a relief to have means to still help those being proactive for themselves or families.
I admire your ability to read so much and distill it so well. Thank you! ☺️
It's good to hear of people actually trying to practice medicine! There's so much more to health than taking a pill. I wish more people understood that with COVID so I'm quite shocked that nothing of the sort happened (at least here in America).
These posts are quite broad but I hope they still provide some good information to people!
If you are interested. Stephen Buhner has detailed herbal protocols for long covid. We've used it very successfully for several patients
https://www.stephenharrodbuhner.com/articles/
Scroll down to the section, Medicine/Herbs/Healing
Aloha Paul✌
Oh boy, I clicked on an article that's over 100 pages! Not sure how that will go hahaha thank you I will look into it and see what I can find. I will try to find remain reserved in my analysis.
Yea, Stephen is a polymath autodidact, who is thorough in his research. The last 20 pages or so are references