Long COVID has been reported since 2020, but the problem at the time was that no serology or PCR testing meant that someone was just assumed to have had COVID and then had persistent symptoms following the infection. Dr. Yoh and Dr. Patterson has covered this topic early on where the lack of testing meant that you could not get a read of prior infection history.
Now, if referring to the 2022 article there is a consequence of vaccination and reports of Long COVID symptoms since there tends to be an overlap between the two, suggesting either spike-related pathology or other circumstances such as possible autoimmunity, but these surveys generally won't look at vaccine history with respect to onset of Long COVID symptoms. I think any surveys that mention it will usually comment on a person's prior doses rather than the timing.
My friend's sister in law, a very fit 54 year old, got COVID in March 2020 - by Christmas 2020 her breathlessness and tiredness had improved only slightly. She went from someone who could run 10km easily to someone who struggled to walk across the room. Fortunately she now has regained about 80% of her prior fitness but it has been a very long journey. This was prior to the jabs and she refused to go to hospital even though she had pneumonia and was very sick so all she had was antibiotics. Seems like long COVID to me.
Hopefully she has a full recovery! It does seem like we are in this strange place now where we are sort of seeing this same reticence that many women likely faced decades prior when they explained their chronic fatigue symptoms. I guess it is true that history will repeat itself if we don't really learn from it.
I hope she does too. My daughter had chronic tiredness - she may have had COVID because her husband probably did but she had no discernable symptoms and there were no tests at the time (April 2020). At the time she had 2 very young children who never slept so none of us were surprised she was always so tired. I finally realised 18 months later that there was a real problem. The GP was next to useless so I did some research and came up with a list of supplements for her to take which seemed to work 'like magic' in her words - I was targeting TNF Alpha and IL6 principally. However if she stops taking the supplements her tiredness returns. I want her to see an immunologists and get some tests done but she hasn't so far.
I don't want to provide anything considered medical advice, but it would be worth considering either autoimmune responses or possible HHV reactivation. This seems to be something that has occurred in a subset of people with a variety of symptoms, usually being diagnosed through testing for an HHV.
There are no viri therefore there is no post viral anything. Now please consider any number of other toxic and radiation insults which certainly are perpetrated on humanity and you may start to find a true cause.
The only thing I can say is that your reason is just as ambiguous as mine would be to argue a viral etiology for everything going on. I think people are able to choose any avenue they wish so long as it is substantiated by evidence. The fact that PCR and serology notes something, the fact that the findings are associated with symptoms are at least some arguments as to why there is at least something. Whether one argues that it's a virus or not sort of becomes nebulous when we argue that there is at least something there.
Fair enough. I won’t rehash all the work done by Lanka, the Baileys, Cowan, Mike Stone, the Perth Group and dpl. Even Mike Yeadon is saying that he no longer believes in respiratory viri. The issue simply is one of viri never being isolated from a sick person, sighted by EM and then causing illness in another person. The experiment to show cytopathic effects is without control and does not fulfil Koch’s postulates. Christine Massie and her FOIA work is also telling. The SARS COV2 is a formula stitched together in a computer, nothing more. I am not sure if you have seriously read some of these authors and if not I encourage you to do so with an open mind. I don’t argue that people experience cold like symptoms but what causes it is far from clear and the massive doses of RF radiation which we now have in big cities at least must be a contender.
Is SARS-CoV-2 a virus? If yes, where does it replicate?
Only in the laboratory eukaryotic cell or also in bacterial cells?
Are the bacteria in the microbiome more numerous than our cells? YES!
And does it seem normal to you that a virus passes through the microbiome layer without bacteria interacting with the virus or producing different substances than usual?
And these bacteria controls we performed and demonstrated
🔷 SARS-CoV-2 replicates first in bacteria
🔷 That orofecal transmission is most important precisely because of the bacterial involvement
🔷 That the bacteria produces toxins
🔷 That antibiotics or a combination of antibiotics can stop both replication, transmission, and toxin production and the clinical picture of patients especially in the early stages of the disease.
Four month after COVID-19 pandemic start, in May 2020 based on my own vision and understanding, clinical evidences, never-before-observed disease toxicity, ARDS, RAS activation tissue effects, as increased vascular permeability, alveolar epithelial cell damage, newly described cytokine storm etc.
.
I predicted and published on LinkedIn and Facebook, that SARS-CoV-2 can replicate in Human’s Microbiome bacteria, acting as bacteriophage. Current knowledge and virologists opinion was strictly against that Coronoviridae family members can do such an action.
.
The publications below, images and references shed light to confirm how RNA of SARS-CoV-2 can replicate in bacteria. I believe, that viral persistence in the gut microbiome could be critical to understand the post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 treatment approaches.
.
CARLO BROGNA
The importance of the gut microbiome in the pathogenesis and transmission of SARS-CoV-2
You can hold that opinion and I could differ in my opinion. I am arguing from the perspective that post-viral syndromes have always been around, and so whatever Long COVID is it's not unique to COVID itself.
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get from the tweet. It does provide me with the BMJ article, but aside from that the vagueness of the post doesn't provide anything. To argue that its displacing venom one has to already infer that venom is what's causing the symptoms, and there seems to be lacking context in that regard. If the tweet is supposed to allude to Dr. Ardis' snake venom claims I've been highly critical of it.
I think, in addition to the stuff about venom, that you're supposed to see that Nicotine patches helped these ladies of leisure overcome "Long Convid."
I noticed that, and it's something I heard mentioned previously. My point of contention was more the connection between the nicotine and then the inference to a venom, although in hindsight maybe they were referring to the vaccine rather than snake venom.
Dr Philip Mc Millan, Dr Carlo Brogna, Dr Chetty etc
It’s a virus that infects bacteria, it can infect faecal matter it can get inside bacteria and replicate in a way that is very similar like it does in a human cell.
It has human and bacterial infection capabilities, it doesn’t behave in a way of a typical viral infection like Flu.
SC2 has a duel mechanism it infects human cells but first infects bacterial cells in the microbiome.
Consequences = Release of Toxins that go into the blood stream, disrupts the CNS and Gut Brain-Axis (you poison yourself)
It can hide just about anywhere in the body undetected by the immune system, it can harbour in dental plaque, it hides in Biofilms, can hide in macrophages.
“You must remember the spike protein has toxin like peptide motifs on it”
You can get it on this post which was a year ago also see comments Jean Michel Wendling and Guy Van den Eede
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Professor Erwin Loh
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/erwinloh_longcovid-blood-fatigue-activity-6965645627112263680-EBrg
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Blood abnormalities found in people with Long Covid
https://www.science.org/content/article/blood-abnormalities-found-people-long-covid
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Distinguishing features of Long COVID identified through immune profiling
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.08.09.22278592v1
Thanks! I didn't realize there was a preprint, and one that came out last year. I'll take a look and include it in a future post.
How many and what percentage of people suffering “long Covid” symptoms are unvaxxed?
Long COVID has been reported since 2020, but the problem at the time was that no serology or PCR testing meant that someone was just assumed to have had COVID and then had persistent symptoms following the infection. Dr. Yoh and Dr. Patterson has covered this topic early on where the lack of testing meant that you could not get a read of prior infection history.
Now, if referring to the 2022 article there is a consequence of vaccination and reports of Long COVID symptoms since there tends to be an overlap between the two, suggesting either spike-related pathology or other circumstances such as possible autoimmunity, but these surveys generally won't look at vaccine history with respect to onset of Long COVID symptoms. I think any surveys that mention it will usually comment on a person's prior doses rather than the timing.
My friend's sister in law, a very fit 54 year old, got COVID in March 2020 - by Christmas 2020 her breathlessness and tiredness had improved only slightly. She went from someone who could run 10km easily to someone who struggled to walk across the room. Fortunately she now has regained about 80% of her prior fitness but it has been a very long journey. This was prior to the jabs and she refused to go to hospital even though she had pneumonia and was very sick so all she had was antibiotics. Seems like long COVID to me.
Hopefully she has a full recovery! It does seem like we are in this strange place now where we are sort of seeing this same reticence that many women likely faced decades prior when they explained their chronic fatigue symptoms. I guess it is true that history will repeat itself if we don't really learn from it.
I hope she does too. My daughter had chronic tiredness - she may have had COVID because her husband probably did but she had no discernable symptoms and there were no tests at the time (April 2020). At the time she had 2 very young children who never slept so none of us were surprised she was always so tired. I finally realised 18 months later that there was a real problem. The GP was next to useless so I did some research and came up with a list of supplements for her to take which seemed to work 'like magic' in her words - I was targeting TNF Alpha and IL6 principally. However if she stops taking the supplements her tiredness returns. I want her to see an immunologists and get some tests done but she hasn't so far.
I don't want to provide anything considered medical advice, but it would be worth considering either autoimmune responses or possible HHV reactivation. This seems to be something that has occurred in a subset of people with a variety of symptoms, usually being diagnosed through testing for an HHV.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/long-covid-latent-viral-reactivations-5205269
Hopefully this helps!
Thank you!
There are no viri therefore there is no post viral anything. Now please consider any number of other toxic and radiation insults which certainly are perpetrated on humanity and you may start to find a true cause.
The only thing I can say is that your reason is just as ambiguous as mine would be to argue a viral etiology for everything going on. I think people are able to choose any avenue they wish so long as it is substantiated by evidence. The fact that PCR and serology notes something, the fact that the findings are associated with symptoms are at least some arguments as to why there is at least something. Whether one argues that it's a virus or not sort of becomes nebulous when we argue that there is at least something there.
Fair enough. I won’t rehash all the work done by Lanka, the Baileys, Cowan, Mike Stone, the Perth Group and dpl. Even Mike Yeadon is saying that he no longer believes in respiratory viri. The issue simply is one of viri never being isolated from a sick person, sighted by EM and then causing illness in another person. The experiment to show cytopathic effects is without control and does not fulfil Koch’s postulates. Christine Massie and her FOIA work is also telling. The SARS COV2 is a formula stitched together in a computer, nothing more. I am not sure if you have seriously read some of these authors and if not I encourage you to do so with an open mind. I don’t argue that people experience cold like symptoms but what causes it is far from clear and the massive doses of RF radiation which we now have in big cities at least must be a contender.
Is SARS-CoV-2 a virus? If yes, where does it replicate?
Only in the laboratory eukaryotic cell or also in bacterial cells?
Are the bacteria in the microbiome more numerous than our cells? YES!
And does it seem normal to you that a virus passes through the microbiome layer without bacteria interacting with the virus or producing different substances than usual?
And these bacteria controls we performed and demonstrated
🔷 SARS-CoV-2 replicates first in bacteria
🔷 That orofecal transmission is most important precisely because of the bacterial involvement
🔷 That the bacteria produces toxins
🔷 That antibiotics or a combination of antibiotics can stop both replication, transmission, and toxin production and the clinical picture of patients especially in the early stages of the disease.
🔷 That the intermediate host is bacteria.
🔷 That mutations are numerous in bacteria
Carlo Brogna
Alexander Marakhovsky, MD, MBA
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alexandermarakhovsky_the-importance-of-the-gut-microbiome-in-the-activity-7095404872505659393-tzRJ
🔷Regarding SARS-CoV-2 and Human Microbiome:
Four month after COVID-19 pandemic start, in May 2020 based on my own vision and understanding, clinical evidences, never-before-observed disease toxicity, ARDS, RAS activation tissue effects, as increased vascular permeability, alveolar epithelial cell damage, newly described cytokine storm etc.
.
I predicted and published on LinkedIn and Facebook, that SARS-CoV-2 can replicate in Human’s Microbiome bacteria, acting as bacteriophage. Current knowledge and virologists opinion was strictly against that Coronoviridae family members can do such an action.
.
The publications below, images and references shed light to confirm how RNA of SARS-CoV-2 can replicate in bacteria. I believe, that viral persistence in the gut microbiome could be critical to understand the post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 treatment approaches.
.
CARLO BROGNA
The importance of the gut microbiome in the pathogenesis and transmission of SARS-CoV-2
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19490976.2023.2244718
LC is BS just as SC is BS. You figure it out; it can take months.
Fear, btw, is never a good strategy, ever.
You can hold that opinion and I could differ in my opinion. I am arguing from the perspective that post-viral syndromes have always been around, and so whatever Long COVID is it's not unique to COVID itself.
https://twitter.com/kateshemirani/status/1706576545957961733?s=46&t=C3ryks6M-u6nsJwiPGNLZA
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get from the tweet. It does provide me with the BMJ article, but aside from that the vagueness of the post doesn't provide anything. To argue that its displacing venom one has to already infer that venom is what's causing the symptoms, and there seems to be lacking context in that regard. If the tweet is supposed to allude to Dr. Ardis' snake venom claims I've been highly critical of it.
Look at the toxins produced in the gut Carlo Brogna just a thought.
I think, in addition to the stuff about venom, that you're supposed to see that Nicotine patches helped these ladies of leisure overcome "Long Convid."
I noticed that, and it's something I heard mentioned previously. My point of contention was more the connection between the nicotine and then the inference to a venom, although in hindsight maybe they were referring to the vaccine rather than snake venom.
Dr Philip Mc Millan, Dr Carlo Brogna, Dr Chetty etc
It’s a virus that infects bacteria, it can infect faecal matter it can get inside bacteria and replicate in a way that is very similar like it does in a human cell.
It has human and bacterial infection capabilities, it doesn’t behave in a way of a typical viral infection like Flu.
SC2 has a duel mechanism it infects human cells but first infects bacterial cells in the microbiome.
Consequences = Release of Toxins that go into the blood stream, disrupts the CNS and Gut Brain-Axis (you poison yourself)
It can hide just about anywhere in the body undetected by the immune system, it can harbour in dental plaque, it hides in Biofilms, can hide in macrophages.
“You must remember the spike protein has toxin like peptide motifs on it”
Renegade Research on twitter put out studies etc
RENEGADE RESEARCH THE NICOTINE TEST
https://twitter.com/TheNicotineTest
Nicotine - a defense to Covid, post-Covid issues, and Shedding
https://rumble.com/v2x2vqx-nicotine-a-defense-to-covid-post-covid-issues-and-shedding.html