Thanks for walking us through this! I love when substuckers have different views on things, it helps us all get to the truth. I agree, I hope we stay close to logic.
"Before proceeding further, please take a look at Dr. Rose’s post and get a gift"... Okay, where is my gift Mr ModDis? 😄 Don't make me get out my pitchfork!
Well, that was meant to be gist, but I guess my hands went a bit too quick! Yeah, I looked at that post for a while not thinking about it too much but it's only now when I went "wait, why isn't ethanol flammable?? Mysterious...."
I should have thought of that! Unfortunately it appears that the last change marked on there was in November of 2021. It would be great if we got a time before the September revision.
Long-time lab employee here - I have sent an email to a manufacturer before saying “hey, I think your SDS is wrong.” So I don’t find this hard to believe at all! And seriously there are bazillions of SDS out there - everything from cleaning supplies to office supplies to lab/manufacturing chemicals. Mistakes are gonna happen, and when you see something that obviously doesn’t make sense ...
Yes, it really looks like they rushed to change it and just left a ton of fingerprints around. I can't make anything of malice out of it, especially since the lipid Pfizer is using is not much different. I'm more inclined to believe they had the weight of someone telling them to change it on account of dissenters doing a little snooping.
And I would also mention that many of these companies make chemicals that are RUO (research use only) as opposed to something that is used for IVD (in vitro diagnostics) which must undergo more rigorous manufacturing processes. I honestly don't know much about the manufacturing process of vaccines, but I would hope that the purity of the ingredients are top notch. It would be nice if the vaccine manufacturers would stop obfuscating this information, but then they couldn't use these types of arguments to make skeptics seem more hysterical.
Post went too long so a few links have been added. Apologies!
Thanks for walking us through this! I love when substuckers have different views on things, it helps us all get to the truth. I agree, I hope we stay close to logic.
"Before proceeding further, please take a look at Dr. Rose’s post and get a gift"... Okay, where is my gift Mr ModDis? 😄 Don't make me get out my pitchfork!
Well, that was meant to be gist, but I guess my hands went a bit too quick! Yeah, I looked at that post for a while not thinking about it too much but it's only now when I went "wait, why isn't ethanol flammable?? Mysterious...."
"chloroform is chloroform"
Wait, what? Then why does my doctor keep asking me to help him "try out this new brand"?
Well that's completely pointless if it isn't tried with a new rag, of course!
Thank you. I will definitely confront him with this information and make sure he only makes me try chloroform brands with fresh cotton going forward.
Nothing but the best!
have you tried getting the older version from the wayback machine?
Nevermind, it actually worked. Thanks! I may include it in my later post.
I should have thought of that! Unfortunately it appears that the last change marked on there was in November of 2021. It would be great if we got a time before the September revision.
Thank you for your due diligence to investigate this further.
Long-time lab employee here - I have sent an email to a manufacturer before saying “hey, I think your SDS is wrong.” So I don’t find this hard to believe at all! And seriously there are bazillions of SDS out there - everything from cleaning supplies to office supplies to lab/manufacturing chemicals. Mistakes are gonna happen, and when you see something that obviously doesn’t make sense ...
Yes, it really looks like they rushed to change it and just left a ton of fingerprints around. I can't make anything of malice out of it, especially since the lipid Pfizer is using is not much different. I'm more inclined to believe they had the weight of someone telling them to change it on account of dissenters doing a little snooping.
And I would also mention that many of these companies make chemicals that are RUO (research use only) as opposed to something that is used for IVD (in vitro diagnostics) which must undergo more rigorous manufacturing processes. I honestly don't know much about the manufacturing process of vaccines, but I would hope that the purity of the ingredients are top notch. It would be nice if the vaccine manufacturers would stop obfuscating this information, but then they couldn't use these types of arguments to make skeptics seem more hysterical.