I'm not usually a Joe Rogan listener/watcher, but I did listen to the Sanjay Gupta one in its entirety, shortly after the Alex Berenson one. It was very much my perception that Gupta was sent there, on a mission.
As for "Horse dewormer" paste... People wouldn't have to resort to that (or the liquid intended for cattle and sheep) if doctors who wanted to prescribe weren't threatened with sanctions, and pharmacies were willing to fill the prescriptions. Is it effective? I'm not certain, but there's far more evidence suggesting that it is than that it isn't, and and there's virtually nothing that indicates it's unsafe, so there's no rational reason to prohibit its off-label use.
That's what I've heard about it. Some people have speculated if it was an attempt to prevent a possible defamation case from Joe Rogan, but then to post that article and then double down makes me question if the they can be that arrogant to do such a thing. Dr. Gupta also wanted to get Rogan to get the shot to influence his viewers so I think that was the main intent no matter what criticisms Rogan threw at him or CNN.
The main concern wasn't if it was effective, but also if there were a ton of adverse events as well and that didn't really seem like the case. Granted, a weekly prophylactic use has never occurred with Ivermectin but at any sign of an adverse event you would expect people to stop taking it. I'm no doctor so I can't speak about that position too much but that at least seems like the sensible thing to try, especially when we didn't have anything for more than 18 months now.
I think the mission was an attempt to convince Joe's listeners that the shots are safe and effective, and perhaps to persuade Joe himself, which would carry a lot of sway if it succeeded.
The main argument Gupta made in favor of everyone getting vaccinated was that the vax'd are eight times less likely to become infected, and thus less likely to spread the virus. Of course anyone who's been watching the data knows this assertion can't possibly be true for more than a few months after people get the shots.
That's what they claim, but I wonder what intent made them think this would be necessary, unless they believe that Joe's viewers just do whatever he tells them to and don't think for themselves. Joe has his opinions and his viewers know that. The media needs to stop thinking their viewers are idiots and are incapable of intelligent thought.
They're only measuring antibodies instead of memory cells, and we have evidence that natural immunity has long immunity. We need some transparency but they've been so steadfast about these vaccines that when contradictory evidence comes out they end up just flopping around not knowing how to respond.
I'm not usually a Joe Rogan listener/watcher, but I did listen to the Sanjay Gupta one in its entirety, shortly after the Alex Berenson one. It was very much my perception that Gupta was sent there, on a mission.
As for "Horse dewormer" paste... People wouldn't have to resort to that (or the liquid intended for cattle and sheep) if doctors who wanted to prescribe weren't threatened with sanctions, and pharmacies were willing to fill the prescriptions. Is it effective? I'm not certain, but there's far more evidence suggesting that it is than that it isn't, and and there's virtually nothing that indicates it's unsafe, so there's no rational reason to prohibit its off-label use.
That's what I've heard about it. Some people have speculated if it was an attempt to prevent a possible defamation case from Joe Rogan, but then to post that article and then double down makes me question if the they can be that arrogant to do such a thing. Dr. Gupta also wanted to get Rogan to get the shot to influence his viewers so I think that was the main intent no matter what criticisms Rogan threw at him or CNN.
The main concern wasn't if it was effective, but also if there were a ton of adverse events as well and that didn't really seem like the case. Granted, a weekly prophylactic use has never occurred with Ivermectin but at any sign of an adverse event you would expect people to stop taking it. I'm no doctor so I can't speak about that position too much but that at least seems like the sensible thing to try, especially when we didn't have anything for more than 18 months now.
Never underestimate CNN's hubris. :)
I think the mission was an attempt to convince Joe's listeners that the shots are safe and effective, and perhaps to persuade Joe himself, which would carry a lot of sway if it succeeded.
The main argument Gupta made in favor of everyone getting vaccinated was that the vax'd are eight times less likely to become infected, and thus less likely to spread the virus. Of course anyone who's been watching the data knows this assertion can't possibly be true for more than a few months after people get the shots.
That's what they claim, but I wonder what intent made them think this would be necessary, unless they believe that Joe's viewers just do whatever he tells them to and don't think for themselves. Joe has his opinions and his viewers know that. The media needs to stop thinking their viewers are idiots and are incapable of intelligent thought.
They're only measuring antibodies instead of memory cells, and we have evidence that natural immunity has long immunity. We need some transparency but they've been so steadfast about these vaccines that when contradictory evidence comes out they end up just flopping around not knowing how to respond.