As I work on a few different topics (as well as my taxes…) I wanted to get a feel from everyone as to their perspective on how the view the current COVID discourse. Whether it be on Substack, on Twitter, or any other Social Media or news outlet.
I ask mainly because I have been seeing some things that I find quite concerning, but instead of writing a post lamenting this fact I would rather see what all of your opinions are.
Do you think the discussions are good? Are there some concerning things? Do you think a lot of the discourse is deviating too far?
So I am opening up the discussion and would like to know what you all think. Please leave a comment, start a discussion, or really provide any feedback as to positives or critiques of this Substack.
Most just seem to want to move on and forget it ever happened. Especially the “vax’d”. But the “vax free” are still being locked out of certain aspects of society and that concerns me. We still have countries enforcing vax passports. The injured are still not being heard. It feels like it’s all being buried for political purposes. Ukraine is the new bright shiny object now.
Since being forced to retire (or face dismissal for my unvaxxed status) from the VA, I spend a lot of time on substack. There are several reasons for this...I learn so much, I have found a community of like minded friends, I can share what I think without the anxiety of being accused of 'wrongthought'. I have noticed that there are very few now who accuse the unvaxxed of being the cause of mutation in covid. I think this may be because people are starting to understand that the vaccines are responsible for the most part. The lies of vaccinated immunity have been exposed and the movement away from the strident narrative of those looking for someone to blame has ever so slightly shifted. FOR NOW. I am always careful about endorsing an idea that has no evidence to support it BUT I am appalled that at this point anyone could consider letting those who 1) created this virus in a lab using any excuse at all... In the name of science; to create a vaccine for a potential virus; or as a biological weapon. I constantly hear people calling for Fauci to be fired. FIRED! He and Francis Collins are not only responsible participants in this egregious crime but they have covered it up and accepted the adulation of millions of people. They and all willing participants should be prosecuted for murder. There literally is no punishment harsh enough to bring justice to this crime. 2) The scientists and doctors willing to use their credentials to malign and destroy those who worked tirelessly to serve and protect their patients (and in fact all of humanity.) These people should lose those credentials, along with any right to participate in a scientific study of any kind. They should be sued in a court of law for malicious slander. At this point the only response to the utter destruction of businesses, families and children is FURY. How many have lost jobs, or been forced to take this vaccine to keep providing for their families? Who could even have imagined this a year ago? No the discourse is not deviating too far. The same government that lied and cheated through the covid pandemic is now lying and cheating their way through a war. Why? Because the U.S. only murders human beings righteously? Because we don't engage in blatant propaganda? Because we don't interfere in the elections of other nations? The only way to change the discourse is to tell the truth...with righteous anger and consequences for criminals. If we are merciful to the psychopaths who have created this misery they will do it again. and again. and again. Psychopaths do not feel remorse. It may be too late, the "war" may already be lost but if we "move on" it will absolutely be lost and the consequences to humanity will be unimaginable. That is what I think.
Thanks for all that you do and write about, I find it very helpful. My main reading each day is substat, I have a Twitter account but don't use it much anymore. I like to read anything related to the pandemic on the vaccines, since it is forefront in my life here in california. I appreciate the people on substack who know more about statistics than I, so they can hash through data. I love any writing about the pandemic and the vaccines, since it's in the forefront in my life and I foresee more restrictions coming up again here in California in the fall. I really like it when the substacks disagree or have different perspectives, it feels like the writers and scientists are checking each other's work, or opening up different perspectives for each other, which is important. I feel a lot of community in the comments, and while it's not the same as in person community, I value it a lot. The online community got me through some really hard, dark times over the past year and a half. The substack writers also give me a sense of community too. 😁👍🏽🙏💕
In one of your replies you mention being burned out on reading studies RE the virus. I think that is the same problem for lay readers of Covid-vaccine skeptical substack - the plot is too messy to keep up with, so there's a ton of reader attrition. Really, I was already noticing that Covid-vaccine skeptical substack was in information overload back in November. So it's been 5 months of feeling like I have to be careful not to throw too much at the reader; they have enough on their plate already. In that sense it's hard to feel despondent about short-term dips in quality of the discourse, because I've been in one-foot-in-front-of-the-other mode for almost half a year already.
Still, it's sobering that substack totally replicates the same expert-layperson dynamic that leads to excessive trust in the experts: whichever voice refuses to acknowledge doubt or respond to criticism, becomes the "authority," even if all their predictions fall flat. In a way it's less surprising to see this in a social media platform vs in actual, official research, but on the other hand why are substack readers so trusting of anyone who can throw a graph together? Didn't they come here to hear truth, not snake-oil? Well, it is what it is.
Those of who understand what has been going on for the last two years.
Those who believed the propaganda and are relishing getting another toxic dose.
Those who have now seen through it but have followed the rest of the sheep up to this point but will go no further.
I had a discussion with one such lady today who had 3 doses but also a second dose of covid. Her husband has been similarly stabbed and had covid three times. Last week, the penny dropped when she realised, as she came out of her latest covid bout, that the only ones getting it had been “fully vaccinated”!
I don’t do facecrap or twatter so generally don’t have contact with mindless ramblings, but it is getting easier for people to see the light. The only problem is that they’re now feeling helpless because they know there’s nothing they can do about the genetic mutations wandering around their bodies.
They won’t help pursue those responsible as they’re not going to feel they can contribute or make a difference there either.
It’s down to us. Although we are a bigger minority than before, it’s going to take some serious power to break this up and take down Fauci and his band of criminals.
Most just seem to want to move on and forget it ever happened. Especially the “vax’d”. But the “vax free” are still being locked out of certain aspects of society and that concerns me. We still have countries enforcing vax passports. The injured are still not being heard. It feels like it’s all being buried for political purposes. Ukraine is the new bright shiny object now.
Since being forced to retire (or face dismissal for my unvaxxed status) from the VA, I spend a lot of time on substack. There are several reasons for this...I learn so much, I have found a community of like minded friends, I can share what I think without the anxiety of being accused of 'wrongthought'. I have noticed that there are very few now who accuse the unvaxxed of being the cause of mutation in covid. I think this may be because people are starting to understand that the vaccines are responsible for the most part. The lies of vaccinated immunity have been exposed and the movement away from the strident narrative of those looking for someone to blame has ever so slightly shifted. FOR NOW. I am always careful about endorsing an idea that has no evidence to support it BUT I am appalled that at this point anyone could consider letting those who 1) created this virus in a lab using any excuse at all... In the name of science; to create a vaccine for a potential virus; or as a biological weapon. I constantly hear people calling for Fauci to be fired. FIRED! He and Francis Collins are not only responsible participants in this egregious crime but they have covered it up and accepted the adulation of millions of people. They and all willing participants should be prosecuted for murder. There literally is no punishment harsh enough to bring justice to this crime. 2) The scientists and doctors willing to use their credentials to malign and destroy those who worked tirelessly to serve and protect their patients (and in fact all of humanity.) These people should lose those credentials, along with any right to participate in a scientific study of any kind. They should be sued in a court of law for malicious slander. At this point the only response to the utter destruction of businesses, families and children is FURY. How many have lost jobs, or been forced to take this vaccine to keep providing for their families? Who could even have imagined this a year ago? No the discourse is not deviating too far. The same government that lied and cheated through the covid pandemic is now lying and cheating their way through a war. Why? Because the U.S. only murders human beings righteously? Because we don't engage in blatant propaganda? Because we don't interfere in the elections of other nations? The only way to change the discourse is to tell the truth...with righteous anger and consequences for criminals. If we are merciful to the psychopaths who have created this misery they will do it again. and again. and again. Psychopaths do not feel remorse. It may be too late, the "war" may already be lost but if we "move on" it will absolutely be lost and the consequences to humanity will be unimaginable. That is what I think.
Thanks for all that you do and write about, I find it very helpful. My main reading each day is substat, I have a Twitter account but don't use it much anymore. I like to read anything related to the pandemic on the vaccines, since it is forefront in my life here in california. I appreciate the people on substack who know more about statistics than I, so they can hash through data. I love any writing about the pandemic and the vaccines, since it's in the forefront in my life and I foresee more restrictions coming up again here in California in the fall. I really like it when the substacks disagree or have different perspectives, it feels like the writers and scientists are checking each other's work, or opening up different perspectives for each other, which is important. I feel a lot of community in the comments, and while it's not the same as in person community, I value it a lot. The online community got me through some really hard, dark times over the past year and a half. The substack writers also give me a sense of community too. 😁👍🏽🙏💕
In one of your replies you mention being burned out on reading studies RE the virus. I think that is the same problem for lay readers of Covid-vaccine skeptical substack - the plot is too messy to keep up with, so there's a ton of reader attrition. Really, I was already noticing that Covid-vaccine skeptical substack was in information overload back in November. So it's been 5 months of feeling like I have to be careful not to throw too much at the reader; they have enough on their plate already. In that sense it's hard to feel despondent about short-term dips in quality of the discourse, because I've been in one-foot-in-front-of-the-other mode for almost half a year already.
Still, it's sobering that substack totally replicates the same expert-layperson dynamic that leads to excessive trust in the experts: whichever voice refuses to acknowledge doubt or respond to criticism, becomes the "authority," even if all their predictions fall flat. In a way it's less surprising to see this in a social media platform vs in actual, official research, but on the other hand why are substack readers so trusting of anyone who can throw a graph together? Didn't they come here to hear truth, not snake-oil? Well, it is what it is.
We now have three camps;
Those of who understand what has been going on for the last two years.
Those who believed the propaganda and are relishing getting another toxic dose.
Those who have now seen through it but have followed the rest of the sheep up to this point but will go no further.
I had a discussion with one such lady today who had 3 doses but also a second dose of covid. Her husband has been similarly stabbed and had covid three times. Last week, the penny dropped when she realised, as she came out of her latest covid bout, that the only ones getting it had been “fully vaccinated”!
I don’t do facecrap or twatter so generally don’t have contact with mindless ramblings, but it is getting easier for people to see the light. The only problem is that they’re now feeling helpless because they know there’s nothing they can do about the genetic mutations wandering around their bodies.
They won’t help pursue those responsible as they’re not going to feel they can contribute or make a difference there either.
It’s down to us. Although we are a bigger minority than before, it’s going to take some serious power to break this up and take down Fauci and his band of criminals.