Very interesting! Science itself, IF it is "real" science isn't negative, because it is simply a method for investigating things and increasing human knowledge. However, it is currently being weaponized against humanity by twisting it into a fake system that masquerades as science but is designed to disseminate falsehoods. This pseudoscience is nothing but manipulative propaganda! And the average person is not sufficiently familiar with the Scientific Method to be able to easily spot when they are being deceived, so it is quite understandable that they are "throwing the baby out with the bath water" and ceasing to trust science in general!
I generally take their question as asking if science leads to things that better us with advancements in therapeutics and connectivity through the internet, or if it may lead to things that may harm us such as say a virus that may or may not have been developed in a lab, or social media addiction and possibly AI. The problem with these surveys is that they don't provide a deeper look into the minds of these individuals and you can't quite provide a thorough answer on these surveys anyways.
I do think your point stands though that what is reported as science isn't inherently science. It seems "sciency" but lacks a lot of the nuance or complexities that we should expect from science.
needs to be more severe penalties for corruption in science... when 60% or more studies turn out to be false in some way there is a big problem. Papers should not be allowed to be cited until the study has been reproduced by others. The amount of retractions is ridiculous.
Or we should at least expect researchers to view studies with a degree of hesitation. It becomes very easy to see researchers following a lead that may not bear any actual fruit, but if many researchers follow that same lead it provides this false assumption that there is something worth researching. An obvious place being Alzheimer's research where one plaque that has been investigated by many researchers appears to have been based on poor data, and yet funding and really the entire field revolved around this protein in particular.
My daughter declined the hep b shot for her newborn son. When she requested his hospital records, they reflect that the hospital gave it to him anyway.
Either they vaxed him without permission or falsified his records. She’s pregnant again and going to a different birthing center this time.
Once trust is lost, it will simply never be restored. None of us will ever trust them again.
Oh my gosh, that is so disturbing. I'm so sorry that happened to your daughter and grandchild. You're right, once trust is lost it won't be fully regained. I recently read that if you birth in a hospital setting you and your family should not let your baby out of your sight (I'm not sure if hospital staff would "allow" that). I'm glad my daughter-in-law birthed at home in the pool with a midwife, we didn't have to worry about hospital shenanigans. Would your daughter consider a home birth?
No, her baby is footling breach, so there won’t be a home birth but she is going to a natural birthing center which has a policy of minimal intervention.
The only time he’ll be alone with them is for his circumcision.
She’s being real cagey with them, acting like she’s just delaying his vaxes so they won’t feel inclined to sneak around and “protect” him against her wishes.
Science becomes "The Science" and hence frozen for monetary gain at the point of perceived maximum commoditization on the part of its handlers. People aren't rebelling aganist science. They are rebelling against it's current crop of elite handlers that literally views humans as widgets that can be juiced.
We need better science communicators, but that requires people who can break down science and educate people, but unfortunately we don't really have much of that going on. All we really have is a group of people who parade around the idea of science than the actual science.
There was an emphasis on science communication in my degree program. The need for it was obvious when one heard talks or saw posters from adjacent departments. Unfortunately, my program ended up producing mediocre communicators (better than garbage communicators, I guess) and even worse scientists. Lose-lose.
Science communication is very hard since you can never find a middle ground (everyone has different baselines in their knowledge of science), but it still requires people who can introduce science and allow people to peer deeper into its intricacies. As of now, aside from the doctors who became celebrities overnight, we only have people such as Bill Nye, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and the like who are focused more on shouting about the science rather than explaining science. I really don't know how we can solve this problem, but clearly the current paradigm isn't working out.
It’s not just USA. But the whole world as a collective of, seemingly overnight lockstep, governments and media and educational systems moved to turn science into a fairytale with themselves as the heroes. In the theory of multiple universes, have we collided with another and ........
Yeah, it seems their antidote to loss of trust in science is more psychological manipulation. Ignorant journalists have no idea about the uncertainties and corruption in science that have caused the mistrust in the first place.
People should spend a little time looking at the WEF website, along with all the government pawns and corporations involved. Maybe they'll have a lightbulb moment in their head.
Very interesting! Science itself, IF it is "real" science isn't negative, because it is simply a method for investigating things and increasing human knowledge. However, it is currently being weaponized against humanity by twisting it into a fake system that masquerades as science but is designed to disseminate falsehoods. This pseudoscience is nothing but manipulative propaganda! And the average person is not sufficiently familiar with the Scientific Method to be able to easily spot when they are being deceived, so it is quite understandable that they are "throwing the baby out with the bath water" and ceasing to trust science in general!
I couldn't have put it better myself, Faith. Science is neither good nor bad, it just is. It's the manipulators of science who can't be trusted.
I generally take their question as asking if science leads to things that better us with advancements in therapeutics and connectivity through the internet, or if it may lead to things that may harm us such as say a virus that may or may not have been developed in a lab, or social media addiction and possibly AI. The problem with these surveys is that they don't provide a deeper look into the minds of these individuals and you can't quite provide a thorough answer on these surveys anyways.
I do think your point stands though that what is reported as science isn't inherently science. It seems "sciency" but lacks a lot of the nuance or complexities that we should expect from science.
needs to be more severe penalties for corruption in science... when 60% or more studies turn out to be false in some way there is a big problem. Papers should not be allowed to be cited until the study has been reproduced by others. The amount of retractions is ridiculous.
Problem still remains that if an early result threatens Deep Pockets, there'll be no follow-on studies.
Or we should at least expect researchers to view studies with a degree of hesitation. It becomes very easy to see researchers following a lead that may not bear any actual fruit, but if many researchers follow that same lead it provides this false assumption that there is something worth researching. An obvious place being Alzheimer's research where one plaque that has been investigated by many researchers appears to have been based on poor data, and yet funding and really the entire field revolved around this protein in particular.
all about money money money... I'm not sure publicly funded researchers should be allowed to profit from their work. Or corporations.
This is one of your best posts ever!
I have always been a "fan of science". Always liked to read and (now) write about science.
That does not mean that I trust crazed and politically obsessed hacks that call their public policy recipes "science".
Propaganda, an effort to promote a certain way of thinking, always masquerades as "news" or "science".
My daughter declined the hep b shot for her newborn son. When she requested his hospital records, they reflect that the hospital gave it to him anyway.
Either they vaxed him without permission or falsified his records. She’s pregnant again and going to a different birthing center this time.
Once trust is lost, it will simply never be restored. None of us will ever trust them again.
The worst part about this is that it puts doubt in parents. How exactly would they know what is truthful?
Oh my gosh, that is so disturbing. I'm so sorry that happened to your daughter and grandchild. You're right, once trust is lost it won't be fully regained. I recently read that if you birth in a hospital setting you and your family should not let your baby out of your sight (I'm not sure if hospital staff would "allow" that). I'm glad my daughter-in-law birthed at home in the pool with a midwife, we didn't have to worry about hospital shenanigans. Would your daughter consider a home birth?
No, her baby is footling breach, so there won’t be a home birth but she is going to a natural birthing center which has a policy of minimal intervention.
The only time he’ll be alone with them is for his circumcision.
She’s being real cagey with them, acting like she’s just delaying his vaxes so they won’t feel inclined to sneak around and “protect” him against her wishes.
A natural birthing center sounds good, and I think that's a great plan - letting them think she's just delaying vaccination. 👍🏽
Science becomes "The Science" and hence frozen for monetary gain at the point of perceived maximum commoditization on the part of its handlers. People aren't rebelling aganist science. They are rebelling against it's current crop of elite handlers that literally views humans as widgets that can be juiced.
We need better science communicators, but that requires people who can break down science and educate people, but unfortunately we don't really have much of that going on. All we really have is a group of people who parade around the idea of science than the actual science.
Very true.
There was an emphasis on science communication in my degree program. The need for it was obvious when one heard talks or saw posters from adjacent departments. Unfortunately, my program ended up producing mediocre communicators (better than garbage communicators, I guess) and even worse scientists. Lose-lose.
Science communication is very hard since you can never find a middle ground (everyone has different baselines in their knowledge of science), but it still requires people who can introduce science and allow people to peer deeper into its intricacies. As of now, aside from the doctors who became celebrities overnight, we only have people such as Bill Nye, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and the like who are focused more on shouting about the science rather than explaining science. I really don't know how we can solve this problem, but clearly the current paradigm isn't working out.
It’s not just USA. But the whole world as a collective of, seemingly overnight lockstep, governments and media and educational systems moved to turn science into a fairytale with themselves as the heroes. In the theory of multiple universes, have we collided with another and ........
Yeah, it seems their antidote to loss of trust in science is more psychological manipulation. Ignorant journalists have no idea about the uncertainties and corruption in science that have caused the mistrust in the first place.
People should spend a little time looking at the WEF website, along with all the government pawns and corporations involved. Maybe they'll have a lightbulb moment in their head.
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https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006DR3hUAG