I personally have no problems with people entering into a PAXLOVID trial, the same ways I wouldn't have issues if it was an IVM or HCQ trial. We wouldn't have any information unless people choose to enter into these trials.
My main point of contention is that these people are continuing to live a life of fear and paranoia, to the point that they are relying on behaviors that have not been shown to be effective. And more importantly, they are coming from a position in which they are trying to influence science by somehow dictating that they know more than the scientists. The case in point being someone suggesting that those with Long COVID are fundamentally immunocompromised. What evidence is being used to suggest that? Unless it comes from actual evidence then these people are just making things up but speaking as if they have any authority on the matter.
Covid itself, as well as post-viral symptoms that may result from any infection, here “long Covid”, has for too many become a repository for all their fears, or a diversion from whatever actual problems they may have. It is a ridiculous cult that obscures the patients that actually , for whatever reason (poor health to begin with, something they should also take more responsibility for instead of assuming the stance of a innocent victim)suffer from post-viral symptoms.
That's definitely true. I have argued that the medical community has overlooked post-viral syndrome for so long that now with COVID there appears to be this unique syndrome when in reality many viruses are likely to be associated with long-term changes in health. But even with that being said, we should not live in fear because of fear of the unknown related to Long COVID. We shouldn't have lived in fear over the virus as well, and so to see this type of behavior it just reinforces this notion that the only way to live life is to avoid anything that may cause some form of harm.
There are still so many people masking in my area (Northern VA). I like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're trying to avoid pollen, which a mask actually might help with since pollen is enormous compared to viruses. But I do think most of them are still scared of covid.
I think people should be free to mask if they see fit, but if they push others to mask then that enters into dangerous territories. The above examples are people who have become so entrenched into their masking paranoia that they are even scared of taking it down for a split second to get swabbed. It's an absurd way to approach life.
After looking at data, masks might help. somewhat to keep pollen out of the nose. All bets seem to be off if there is wind. Also pollrn enters through the eyes and apparently ears as well. So yes wear one if you want but …. be realistic. That is something that seems to be lacking.
Well my husband and I have Long Covid. I have milder symptoms, but neither of us wear masks and we don't live in fear. I know some older people (like my husband and I) who basically locked themselves in their homes and were afraid to come out. Some were driven to this by their adult children that were afraid of their parents dying. I hate what the govt and medicine did in the name of "science " or should I say money and power.
Something I've always wondered about in these studies of Long COVID: are these people vaccinated? Has there ever been a study that separates vaccinated from unvaccinated?
My husband and I had covid in December 2020. I had antibody infusion and then 2 Pfizer jabs. My husband who had covid in Feb 2020 and then Dec 2020 took 1 Moderna jab and was sick again with covid symptoms (not confirmed). We both have long covid. I am much better but my husband had terrible headaches and brain fog, loss of taste and smell.
Thanks for sharing and sorry for your ordeal. My mom and I both got COVID in late 2020. Her symptoms were more severe and more prolonged than mine, but luckily she recovered with some extra help. We had different lingering symptoms for a short period afterward. It's interesting you mentioned your husband 's loss of smell, because I also had loss of smell that lasted for a month after recovery (with clear sinuses) while everything else was fine. I was afraid I would not able to smell coffee again!
We didn't get the jabs and have been ok since recovering for these past 2.5 years so that's why I was wondering if Long Covid, whether with continuous symptoms or recurrent, are also related to the vaccines. I've had relatives that took the jabs and some are ok and some are not ok.
Have you tried some of the other potential treatments that Peter McCoulough and others have explored? Nattokinase (on an empty stomach) is something I've seen with research papers on and some have hypothesized about other proteolytic enzymes.
If someone is dumb enough to enter a Paxlovid trial, they're probably also dumb enough to buy the masks are effective BS!
I personally have no problems with people entering into a PAXLOVID trial, the same ways I wouldn't have issues if it was an IVM or HCQ trial. We wouldn't have any information unless people choose to enter into these trials.
My main point of contention is that these people are continuing to live a life of fear and paranoia, to the point that they are relying on behaviors that have not been shown to be effective. And more importantly, they are coming from a position in which they are trying to influence science by somehow dictating that they know more than the scientists. The case in point being someone suggesting that those with Long COVID are fundamentally immunocompromised. What evidence is being used to suggest that? Unless it comes from actual evidence then these people are just making things up but speaking as if they have any authority on the matter.
I don’t disagree. I don’t disagree Limu either. My understanding is if one has had covid, plaxlovid is not a viable course of action.
Covid itself, as well as post-viral symptoms that may result from any infection, here “long Covid”, has for too many become a repository for all their fears, or a diversion from whatever actual problems they may have. It is a ridiculous cult that obscures the patients that actually , for whatever reason (poor health to begin with, something they should also take more responsibility for instead of assuming the stance of a innocent victim)suffer from post-viral symptoms.
That's definitely true. I have argued that the medical community has overlooked post-viral syndrome for so long that now with COVID there appears to be this unique syndrome when in reality many viruses are likely to be associated with long-term changes in health. But even with that being said, we should not live in fear because of fear of the unknown related to Long COVID. We shouldn't have lived in fear over the virus as well, and so to see this type of behavior it just reinforces this notion that the only way to live life is to avoid anything that may cause some form of harm.
There are still so many people masking in my area (Northern VA). I like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're trying to avoid pollen, which a mask actually might help with since pollen is enormous compared to viruses. But I do think most of them are still scared of covid.
I think people should be free to mask if they see fit, but if they push others to mask then that enters into dangerous territories. The above examples are people who have become so entrenched into their masking paranoia that they are even scared of taking it down for a split second to get swabbed. It's an absurd way to approach life.
After looking at data, masks might help. somewhat to keep pollen out of the nose. All bets seem to be off if there is wind. Also pollrn enters through the eyes and apparently ears as well. So yes wear one if you want but …. be realistic. That is something that seems to be lacking.
Same in GA. I suspect they have comorbidities and believe they are more protected.
Well my husband and I have Long Covid. I have milder symptoms, but neither of us wear masks and we don't live in fear. I know some older people (like my husband and I) who basically locked themselves in their homes and were afraid to come out. Some were driven to this by their adult children that were afraid of their parents dying. I hate what the govt and medicine did in the name of "science " or should I say money and power.
Something I've always wondered about in these studies of Long COVID: are these people vaccinated? Has there ever been a study that separates vaccinated from unvaccinated?
My husband and I had covid in December 2020. I had antibody infusion and then 2 Pfizer jabs. My husband who had covid in Feb 2020 and then Dec 2020 took 1 Moderna jab and was sick again with covid symptoms (not confirmed). We both have long covid. I am much better but my husband had terrible headaches and brain fog, loss of taste and smell.
Thanks for sharing and sorry for your ordeal. My mom and I both got COVID in late 2020. Her symptoms were more severe and more prolonged than mine, but luckily she recovered with some extra help. We had different lingering symptoms for a short period afterward. It's interesting you mentioned your husband 's loss of smell, because I also had loss of smell that lasted for a month after recovery (with clear sinuses) while everything else was fine. I was afraid I would not able to smell coffee again!
We didn't get the jabs and have been ok since recovering for these past 2.5 years so that's why I was wondering if Long Covid, whether with continuous symptoms or recurrent, are also related to the vaccines. I've had relatives that took the jabs and some are ok and some are not ok.
Have you tried some of the other potential treatments that Peter McCoulough and others have explored? Nattokinase (on an empty stomach) is something I've seen with research papers on and some have hypothesized about other proteolytic enzymes.