So just in case people are misinterpreting this post:
I am not arguing that SARS-COV2 was not created via GOF research, or was NOT* bioengineered.
Rather, I am arguing that GOF has been widely thrown out and has become an umbrella term for any form of tinkering with a virus.
It's one thing if a virus was constructed (whether nefarious or done with "good intentions"), but it's another if ANY research that looks at mutations would be considered GOF and thus tossed in with questions on the origins of SARS-COV2.
For anyone who has been around on my Substack I've raised questions about SARS-COV2's origins, even if I wasn't one that questioned it originally. I also raised questions about Omicron's emergence as well.
*Not should have been included in the original comment to infer that my original comment does not infer SARS-COV2 was not bioengineered (i.e. that is still a likely possibility).
Jan 29, 2023·edited Jan 29, 2023Liked by Modern Discontent
Thanks for your clarification. Your last sentence was a tad harsh on yourself. We're all human; the PV piece was emotional, even for the viewers (especially the violent parts), and it's easy to get pulled in. Be kind to yourself, and your vulnerability in posting this second piece is a sign of strength. Kudos to you!
Now, I agree that Pfizer didn't deny it and what they denied, they denied under the name of Pfizer, not BioNTech...and I don't trust them with a 10 foot pole, but ofc, that doesn't mean EVERYTHING they say is false.
Thanks for the post, and recognizing the limitation of responding immediately without fully considering the evidence. I always appreciate your reflections and your honesty. I noticed Walkers lack of scientific words as well, and it seemed like he could be relaying a conversation with a couple co-workers rather than what was happening at Phizer's labs. I wouldn't put it past Pfizer to do something like that tho, because I think they are participating in the global fascist capitalism that has taken a root. (Ivor Patton put out a great post on global fascist capitalism at so far he's been unable to upload to substack....).
This video of Walker would be just a starting point to gather more info, not proof what's happening at phizer. It was very enjoyable to watch though! I always thought that project veritas was using honey traps at times, because in their videos people give information that I don't think they would normally give if there wasn't a beautiful woman or a handsome man on the other side of the conversation. This honey trap had three dates with Walker... so interesting. I'm always aware when videos are edited, and I try to find the original version to make sure what's coming across in the edited video actually reflects what was said.
I think you’re being a little harsh on yourself. It’s not like you don’t encourage/teach skepticism in your readers practically all the time. I didn’t originally feel this was the smoking gun that maybe the Covid-skeptical crowd was hoping for ... especially after listening to the first hour or so of the Twitter space.
I really enjoyed the cis/trans example although I tend to think of cis/trans ambiguities in genotyping. I wonder if that’s why I find these gender terms so confusing 🤷🏼♀️
Great commentary and good companion to Brian’s article. While Brian provides a useful and challenging perspective, I find some of his writing a tad obtuse. At times, he seems to assume a high level of technical knowledge from the reader, which makes it tricky for the layman to follow. However, I may just be a dunce. 😊
But with Sars Cov 2 with a furin cleavage- doesn’t that point to GOF engineering? It’s still debatable if the leak was on purpose or by accident, but the danger of GOF should be readily apparent.
But I think the issue is a wider problem, the money backing all new experiments are driven by only one goal in mind- something I call the shiny penny theory. The last 20 years have demonstrated the US has in multiple agencies (education, tech, medicine) that they are immediately attracted to the newest thing and make the simplistic assumption that newer means better. So in education, they heard about Singapore Math and boom, the US has to also implement Singapore math! EV cars will save the environment! Let’s force all money into inefficient and environmentally unfriendly practices of solar panels, lithium batteries and windmills! Vaccines can cure HPV- boom- lets apply vaccines to cure everything! Commence Bill Gates spending machine. But each of these changes had the systems ignore and even unlearn in some cases the mastery of many basic skills- and all in the pursuit of money- new textbooks, new medicinal patents.
What the video actually demonstrated was the type of creatures who are in CHARGE of the decision making apparatuses driving public policy- which is utterly frightening. He is arrogant, and clearly not terribly bright, and yet his “Yale’ credentials have him with one foot in a consulting group and the other in medicine, apparently not skilled in either department, but there he is, with the access to the ears that change the course of medical invention. When will funding go back to basic things again like better antibiotics and anti virals without necessitating GOF of chimeric corona viruses with HIV inserts and the like?
They admitted doing GoF under some circumstances and didn't claim any limit to their use of GoF.
They have high level labs in jurisdictions that don't restrict GoF.
Even if he doesn't have the technical background to understand the details, his use of sensible terminology could easily be the result of being in high level meetings and discussions that for example could describe exactly what he is talking about.
He seemed to report as if common knowledge what SARS2 actually came from (which it is of course... In many circles). And he didn't seem that concerned about it being an inevitable result of certain types of research.
And where did omicron come from again?
Jeff Childers has a good explanation of what they said from a legal standpoint... Very little it turns out.
The most serious problem is not that viral research involving mutations is done. I did it with fungus a long time ago. The problem is that unstable and unethical people doing are overseeing the research. The Project Veritas video showed us an undisciplined and unethical person who is in a position to effect significant policy making decisions. That’s significant.
I believe we all should pay more attention to the fact that the man said something about "in silico" and follow the meaning and implications of this clue. May we all arrive at the no real virus team?
In health care, there are now cameras everywhere, and keystrokes are tracked. This is because no one is trusted. This is because we have been tolerating untrustworthy and unethical behavior for quite awhile. There goes the neighborhood. People have real reason to fear going to the hospital because none of the employees are considered or treated as being worthy of trust. This standard is pervading Everything.
By the way, the so-called DIE hiring that you mentioned, contributes to this problem. Competence and character are not the criteria for hiring. Stuff such as skin color and which kind of sex people like are being prioritized, though both should be inapplicable to the workplace. This is ultimately not good for competent and qualified people who are outside of the majority in various personal categories, because they will be viewed as less so, due to DIE policies.
Regardless of the GoF issue, isn’t it notable that the company responsible for creating and pushing something injected into billions employ such emotionally immature, unserious, immoral and mediocre people in (relatively) senior positions?
What you have omitted or forgotten and that which has resulted in MANY deaths...Sort of important to many of us...There was a complete lack of REAL trials/studies of the vaccines and boosters, by Pfizer (and others) and going forward, that same illegal practice would be carried-out with the GOF, excuse me, Directed Evolution to 'stay ahead' of the mutations...!
Of course, that is all a very mute point, since all of the vaccines and boosters seem to be causing more deaths than the virus(s) themselves, or in this case ‘engineered mutations.’
Are you going to overlook all of the corruption in the pharma complex and the revolving door relationships with the government agencies that are supposed to be 'protecting' Americans from the pharma complex?
The lunacy and corruption is in the fact that generating mutations and then creating vaccines to protect humans is a whole lot like printing counterfeit money...Not to mention depopulation...!
I had immediately taken note of Walker’s strong initial reaction to O’Keefe confronting him:
“I was lying...was trying to impress a date...”
It was immediate, emphatic, and I thought the most sincere thing said by either party.
That said, one only need to look at the lack of accountability by those who funded (Fauci) and performed (ECOHealth - Daszak) gain of function experimentation to assume/conclude that Pfizer saw a green light by the federal gov’t to continue that dangerous and deadly research.
Thanks for your article. I agree that the GoF discussion of the video does not present some sort of smoking gun, and "Pfizer creates more viruses/variants to make more money" is not exactly the right story.
Pfizer does create more variants due to pfizer vaccines doing so.
The real bombshell is how Jordon is laughing about Pfizer owning the FDA, something we knew but were not sure if they are laughing about it at Pfizer, and now we know
So just in case people are misinterpreting this post:
I am not arguing that SARS-COV2 was not created via GOF research, or was NOT* bioengineered.
Rather, I am arguing that GOF has been widely thrown out and has become an umbrella term for any form of tinkering with a virus.
It's one thing if a virus was constructed (whether nefarious or done with "good intentions"), but it's another if ANY research that looks at mutations would be considered GOF and thus tossed in with questions on the origins of SARS-COV2.
For anyone who has been around on my Substack I've raised questions about SARS-COV2's origins, even if I wasn't one that questioned it originally. I also raised questions about Omicron's emergence as well.
*Not should have been included in the original comment to infer that my original comment does not infer SARS-COV2 was not bioengineered (i.e. that is still a likely possibility).
Pfizer didn’t deny it so … 🤷♀️
Thanks for your clarification. Your last sentence was a tad harsh on yourself. We're all human; the PV piece was emotional, even for the viewers (especially the violent parts), and it's easy to get pulled in. Be kind to yourself, and your vulnerability in posting this second piece is a sign of strength. Kudos to you!
Now, I agree that Pfizer didn't deny it and what they denied, they denied under the name of Pfizer, not BioNTech...and I don't trust them with a 10 foot pole, but ofc, that doesn't mean EVERYTHING they say is false.
Thanks for the post, and recognizing the limitation of responding immediately without fully considering the evidence. I always appreciate your reflections and your honesty. I noticed Walkers lack of scientific words as well, and it seemed like he could be relaying a conversation with a couple co-workers rather than what was happening at Phizer's labs. I wouldn't put it past Pfizer to do something like that tho, because I think they are participating in the global fascist capitalism that has taken a root. (Ivor Patton put out a great post on global fascist capitalism at so far he's been unable to upload to substack....).
This video of Walker would be just a starting point to gather more info, not proof what's happening at phizer. It was very enjoyable to watch though! I always thought that project veritas was using honey traps at times, because in their videos people give information that I don't think they would normally give if there wasn't a beautiful woman or a handsome man on the other side of the conversation. This honey trap had three dates with Walker... so interesting. I'm always aware when videos are edited, and I try to find the original version to make sure what's coming across in the edited video actually reflects what was said.
I think you’re being a little harsh on yourself. It’s not like you don’t encourage/teach skepticism in your readers practically all the time. I didn’t originally feel this was the smoking gun that maybe the Covid-skeptical crowd was hoping for ... especially after listening to the first hour or so of the Twitter space.
I really enjoyed the cis/trans example although I tend to think of cis/trans ambiguities in genotyping. I wonder if that’s why I find these gender terms so confusing 🤷🏼♀️
Great commentary and good companion to Brian’s article. While Brian provides a useful and challenging perspective, I find some of his writing a tad obtuse. At times, he seems to assume a high level of technical knowledge from the reader, which makes it tricky for the layman to follow. However, I may just be a dunce. 😊
But with Sars Cov 2 with a furin cleavage- doesn’t that point to GOF engineering? It’s still debatable if the leak was on purpose or by accident, but the danger of GOF should be readily apparent.
But I think the issue is a wider problem, the money backing all new experiments are driven by only one goal in mind- something I call the shiny penny theory. The last 20 years have demonstrated the US has in multiple agencies (education, tech, medicine) that they are immediately attracted to the newest thing and make the simplistic assumption that newer means better. So in education, they heard about Singapore Math and boom, the US has to also implement Singapore math! EV cars will save the environment! Let’s force all money into inefficient and environmentally unfriendly practices of solar panels, lithium batteries and windmills! Vaccines can cure HPV- boom- lets apply vaccines to cure everything! Commence Bill Gates spending machine. But each of these changes had the systems ignore and even unlearn in some cases the mastery of many basic skills- and all in the pursuit of money- new textbooks, new medicinal patents.
What the video actually demonstrated was the type of creatures who are in CHARGE of the decision making apparatuses driving public policy- which is utterly frightening. He is arrogant, and clearly not terribly bright, and yet his “Yale’ credentials have him with one foot in a consulting group and the other in medicine, apparently not skilled in either department, but there he is, with the access to the ears that change the course of medical invention. When will funding go back to basic things again like better antibiotics and anti virals without necessitating GOF of chimeric corona viruses with HIV inserts and the like?
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/triple-play-saturday-january-28-2023 ... a more legal dissection
I don't know.
Pfizer denied nothing.
They didn't deny his employment status.
They admitted doing GoF under some circumstances and didn't claim any limit to their use of GoF.
They have high level labs in jurisdictions that don't restrict GoF.
Even if he doesn't have the technical background to understand the details, his use of sensible terminology could easily be the result of being in high level meetings and discussions that for example could describe exactly what he is talking about.
He seemed to report as if common knowledge what SARS2 actually came from (which it is of course... In many circles). And he didn't seem that concerned about it being an inevitable result of certain types of research.
And where did omicron come from again?
Jeff Childers has a good explanation of what they said from a legal standpoint... Very little it turns out.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/triple-play-saturday-january-28-2023
The most serious problem is not that viral research involving mutations is done. I did it with fungus a long time ago. The problem is that unstable and unethical people doing are overseeing the research. The Project Veritas video showed us an undisciplined and unethical person who is in a position to effect significant policy making decisions. That’s significant.
I believe we all should pay more attention to the fact that the man said something about "in silico" and follow the meaning and implications of this clue. May we all arrive at the no real virus team?
In health care, there are now cameras everywhere, and keystrokes are tracked. This is because no one is trusted. This is because we have been tolerating untrustworthy and unethical behavior for quite awhile. There goes the neighborhood. People have real reason to fear going to the hospital because none of the employees are considered or treated as being worthy of trust. This standard is pervading Everything.
By the way, the so-called DIE hiring that you mentioned, contributes to this problem. Competence and character are not the criteria for hiring. Stuff such as skin color and which kind of sex people like are being prioritized, though both should be inapplicable to the workplace. This is ultimately not good for competent and qualified people who are outside of the majority in various personal categories, because they will be viewed as less so, due to DIE policies.
Regardless of the GoF issue, isn’t it notable that the company responsible for creating and pushing something injected into billions employ such emotionally immature, unserious, immoral and mediocre people in (relatively) senior positions?
What you have omitted or forgotten and that which has resulted in MANY deaths...Sort of important to many of us...There was a complete lack of REAL trials/studies of the vaccines and boosters, by Pfizer (and others) and going forward, that same illegal practice would be carried-out with the GOF, excuse me, Directed Evolution to 'stay ahead' of the mutations...!
Of course, that is all a very mute point, since all of the vaccines and boosters seem to be causing more deaths than the virus(s) themselves, or in this case ‘engineered mutations.’
Are you going to overlook all of the corruption in the pharma complex and the revolving door relationships with the government agencies that are supposed to be 'protecting' Americans from the pharma complex?
The lunacy and corruption is in the fact that generating mutations and then creating vaccines to protect humans is a whole lot like printing counterfeit money...Not to mention depopulation...!
Dr. Donnie Smith
I had immediately taken note of Walker’s strong initial reaction to O’Keefe confronting him:
“I was lying...was trying to impress a date...”
It was immediate, emphatic, and I thought the most sincere thing said by either party.
That said, one only need to look at the lack of accountability by those who funded (Fauci) and performed (ECOHealth - Daszak) gain of function experimentation to assume/conclude that Pfizer saw a green light by the federal gov’t to continue that dangerous and deadly research.
Thanks for your article. I agree that the GoF discussion of the video does not present some sort of smoking gun, and "Pfizer creates more viruses/variants to make more money" is not exactly the right story.
Pfizer does create more variants due to pfizer vaccines doing so.
The real bombshell is how Jordon is laughing about Pfizer owning the FDA, something we knew but were not sure if they are laughing about it at Pfizer, and now we know