Geoff - "Given that the Endotoxin in mRNA jabs can reactivate Herpes Zoster virus as Shingles5, I wonder how many Adverse Events caused by the contaminated mRNA jabs can be attributed to reactivation of lurking viruses carried since childhood"
So I was curious about the links and checked them. The first article appears to be covering something that was already covered by Jessica Rose a few months back. The superantigen aspect is interesting, although I wonder if a lot of the hubbub is over how terrifying the word "superantigen" is rather than what it actually does. I think Brian Mowrey made a point in one of his posts suggesting that the FCS seems to come and go in many viruses. I'd have to look up what he said in particular and see his rationale.
I hesitate when parallels are drawn in order to infer that something looks akin to some other thing. I think that whole Dr. Ardis snake venom period was an example of what happens when someone draws too many parallels by looking too literally at something.
To Geoff's article it doesn't really provide much aside from a mention at the end which is what you included. As I mentioned in the prior post anything can cause an HHV reactivation. Even stress or taking immunosuppressants can cause it, and so I don't think you would need to look too closely into endotoxin.
For instance, in falsifying an "endotoxin in mRNA vaccine argument" note that the flu vaccine appears to also have instances of HHV reactivation:
This also appears to happen with the adenoviral vector vaccines as well. The following systematic review makes mention of AstraZeneca's vaccine, although the frequency of HZV reactivation is lower relative to the mRNA vaccines:
So again, it's a model that seems too niche and doesn't quite explain the mechanisms by which other vaccinations can lead to apparent HHV reactivation.
In all honesty, I think the reason why people focus on the mRNA vaccines is because it is novel and there's plenty of unknowns. It makes it easier to come up with any hypothesis for something that we don't have a lot of knowledge of. It kind of makes it easy to not falsify, but then that sort of leads us to not consider other possibilities.
Thanks for your reply, it makes a lot of sense. I do appreciate how you take into account a wide variety of factors, not just the MRNA vaccine. The human body is such a complex system!
There's a lot of nuance and ambiguities for what is going on, so we sort of need to have an open mind for various ideas and see where overlaps exist. I think there's a bit of a problem where a lot of people may be going down roads backed by their own self-assurance that what they are looking at is the absolute truth that it can blind them from finding other alternatives. I try to post what I can find, rationalize what some of it may mean, but then leave room for other possibilities.
The human body really is complex! There's a lot to it that we have yet to understand, and hence why it's important that we be aware of many pitfalls in knowledge.
So I've seen a few endotoxin comments. I haven't looked into it too deeply, but in general my perspective is that parallels should be drawn between infections and vaccinations. We're seeing similar events happening between the two, albeit with different numbers, so any model that is suggestive of explaining what's going on should likely include a model that fits both infection and vaccination. Endotoxins seem to be discussed primarily around the vaccines, and in reality many of these models seem to focus solely on vaccines even though we see some of these events occurring in infected people as well.
I suppose there could be a rationale for gut dysbiosis and the targeting of the microbiome but even then there's a lot of nuance there as well. My position is to be open and see what's out there and follow anything that seems of interest. I think far too many people may be boxing themselves into one possibility and leaving all others unaccounted for.
I find all of this rather frightening concerning the state of our medical community. This reductionist approach with one size fits all medicine is another facet of the poor healthcare we receive. These are simple blood tests and are being overlooked with devastating consequences. I hope more doctors take off the WHO/CDC/NIH blinders and actually try to help their patients.
In researching a lot of these things it does seem like the press covered a possible link with HHV reactivation, usually by way of mentioning a published study such as any of the ones I cited above. Unfortunately, it seems to go away as quickly as it comes up. It seems like a lot of these ideas are entertained for a bit then goes away due to lack of interest, so many people are likely left in the dark and unaware of these sorts of things.
This just seems to be the mode for how things operate. You can see how quickly people stopped caring about East Palestine unless to bring it up and tie it into conspiracies. I wouldn't be surprised if the Maui fires stop getting reported on in a week or so after people lose interest. That's the way it goes I suppose.
I wonder if herpes reactivation is related to endotoxins? John Paul and Geoff are making some connections.
John Paul - "Together with a few other “parts” of the Spike Protein, the FCS is effectively a magnet toward LPS (Endotoxin)"
https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/pfizers-vaccine-design-and-superantigens
Geoff - "Given that the Endotoxin in mRNA jabs can reactivate Herpes Zoster virus as Shingles5, I wonder how many Adverse Events caused by the contaminated mRNA jabs can be attributed to reactivation of lurking viruses carried since childhood"
https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/does-latent-parvovirus-b19v-predispose
So I was curious about the links and checked them. The first article appears to be covering something that was already covered by Jessica Rose a few months back. The superantigen aspect is interesting, although I wonder if a lot of the hubbub is over how terrifying the word "superantigen" is rather than what it actually does. I think Brian Mowrey made a point in one of his posts suggesting that the FCS seems to come and go in many viruses. I'd have to look up what he said in particular and see his rationale.
I hesitate when parallels are drawn in order to infer that something looks akin to some other thing. I think that whole Dr. Ardis snake venom period was an example of what happens when someone draws too many parallels by looking too literally at something.
To Geoff's article it doesn't really provide much aside from a mention at the end which is what you included. As I mentioned in the prior post anything can cause an HHV reactivation. Even stress or taking immunosuppressants can cause it, and so I don't think you would need to look too closely into endotoxin.
For instance, in falsifying an "endotoxin in mRNA vaccine argument" note that the flu vaccine appears to also have instances of HHV reactivation:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5360113/ - HSV2 reactivation and myelitis following influenza vaccination
This also appears to happen with the adenoviral vector vaccines as well. The following systematic review makes mention of AstraZeneca's vaccine, although the frequency of HZV reactivation is lower relative to the mRNA vaccines:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8471236/ - Varicella Zoster Virus Reactivation Following COVID-19 Vaccination: A Systematic Review of Case Reports
So again, it's a model that seems too niche and doesn't quite explain the mechanisms by which other vaccinations can lead to apparent HHV reactivation.
In all honesty, I think the reason why people focus on the mRNA vaccines is because it is novel and there's plenty of unknowns. It makes it easier to come up with any hypothesis for something that we don't have a lot of knowledge of. It kind of makes it easy to not falsify, but then that sort of leads us to not consider other possibilities.
Thanks for your reply, it makes a lot of sense. I do appreciate how you take into account a wide variety of factors, not just the MRNA vaccine. The human body is such a complex system!
There's a lot of nuance and ambiguities for what is going on, so we sort of need to have an open mind for various ideas and see where overlaps exist. I think there's a bit of a problem where a lot of people may be going down roads backed by their own self-assurance that what they are looking at is the absolute truth that it can blind them from finding other alternatives. I try to post what I can find, rationalize what some of it may mean, but then leave room for other possibilities.
The human body really is complex! There's a lot to it that we have yet to understand, and hence why it's important that we be aware of many pitfalls in knowledge.
So I've seen a few endotoxin comments. I haven't looked into it too deeply, but in general my perspective is that parallels should be drawn between infections and vaccinations. We're seeing similar events happening between the two, albeit with different numbers, so any model that is suggestive of explaining what's going on should likely include a model that fits both infection and vaccination. Endotoxins seem to be discussed primarily around the vaccines, and in reality many of these models seem to focus solely on vaccines even though we see some of these events occurring in infected people as well.
I suppose there could be a rationale for gut dysbiosis and the targeting of the microbiome but even then there's a lot of nuance there as well. My position is to be open and see what's out there and follow anything that seems of interest. I think far too many people may be boxing themselves into one possibility and leaving all others unaccounted for.
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I find all of this rather frightening concerning the state of our medical community. This reductionist approach with one size fits all medicine is another facet of the poor healthcare we receive. These are simple blood tests and are being overlooked with devastating consequences. I hope more doctors take off the WHO/CDC/NIH blinders and actually try to help their patients.
In researching a lot of these things it does seem like the press covered a possible link with HHV reactivation, usually by way of mentioning a published study such as any of the ones I cited above. Unfortunately, it seems to go away as quickly as it comes up. It seems like a lot of these ideas are entertained for a bit then goes away due to lack of interest, so many people are likely left in the dark and unaware of these sorts of things.
This just seems to be the mode for how things operate. You can see how quickly people stopped caring about East Palestine unless to bring it up and tie it into conspiracies. I wouldn't be surprised if the Maui fires stop getting reported on in a week or so after people lose interest. That's the way it goes I suppose.
Wow. There a lot to unpack here. Disturbingly complicated, too.