I would think that not using your own cells as antigen factories has to be a plus when it comes to safety. If I had to take one, I suppose it would be this one, except that:
- I don't have to
- It's not available here in the USA
- The omicron spike is so different from the Wuhan spike that antibodies created by any of the existing vaccines are effectively useless now.
Thanks for all your work. I super appreciate it. I have had covid twice, once before vaccines and then omicron. I would not want to disturb this immunity with any kind of vaccine. And since many many more people have had covid than registered, it is certainly not a good idea to get vaccinated unless you know if you had it or not: or personally period. I imagine you know all this but I thought I would put in a quote from Time about the CDC study to determine how many people have had covid: "In the CDC’s new study, researchers used data on antibodies—proteins the body generates to fight off an infection—to better understand how many people in the U.S. previously had COVID-19. Antibodies made to fight off SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) are distinct from those produced by vaccines, so testing for these proteins can help determine if someone was previously infected, even unknowingly." Whoops I guess they slipped when they admitted that the antibodies from the disease are different than the vaccines.
Apr 29, 2022·edited Apr 29, 2022Liked by Modern Discontent
Thanks for this. I've not been following new vax info (old vax info is appalling enough), after I found out that there is no safety data on most any of the vaccines, as reported by Robert Kennedy Jr in his book, when the CDC and FDA admitted they had no vaccine safety studies, after a freedom of information request was filed to see their safety studies. The same destroy the control group as for the mRNA therapies strategy had been used to obfuscate. And that (for example) influenza vaccine (which may or may not have efficacy, that relative risk is so much bs) results in greater susceptibility to other respiratory viruses (I don't have a link to research here but is findable with the right query) So I've decided to avoid vaccines as a matter of course.
Having said that, I always encourage people who ask me my opinion to do their own research. Your review is something I can guide them to, so thank you.
A piece conveying relative risk vs absolute risk would be a good article to write about, JMO.
Thank you for this informative summary! I did have hopes in the beginning that this might be a better route for a vaccine since it was at least similar to some current vaccines and not wholly new like the mRNA vaccines. If indeed the spike protein itself is immunogenetic then I do wonder if there is even a point in trying to create a vaccine (when the cure is as bad or maybe worse than the disease). As it now has natural animal reservoirs it will never be eradicated so perhaps the shift in public health response should focus on improving our overall health as this is quite a survivable disease for the overwhelming majority of people.
I am in Australia, I have a friend who had NOVAVAX after one dose got shingles, extreme fatigue and skin lesions, large red blisters and was diagnosed with diabetes
Thank you for the good article, now that I'm finally reading it.
It seems to me that Novavax's potential market of people who want a vaccine but prefer a more traditional concoction would have been substantial if it would have been available in the U.S. in at least mid 2021. Now, however, the fiasco of the mRNA shots has hardened the position of most who have been able to avoid them, as well as many who took them. It's a hard pass on any COVID shot from here on out for a majority of the population.
I doubt if the delay in approval was for benign reasons, but whatever the case, I hope it's never approved in the U.S.
Thanks for this write-up. I have been saying for a while I believe Novavax will be "safer" because it doesn't force your body to create spike protein - and I stand by that until data shows me otherwise. However, Novavax shares the problem of the same old spike protein being used. Besides the potential cytotoxicity of the spike protein itself, using the old protein may set up the immune system to focus on the wrong thing...and lead to worsening outcomes for future variants. We shall see.
PS I think the FDA may possibly be slow walking Novavax because they know it's safer...and when VAERS shows the difference they won't be able to hide the mRNA problems anymore.
Apr 29, 2022·edited Apr 29, 2022Liked by Modern Discontent
Thanks so much for the thorough rundown of novavax. 👍🏽💕 I don't imagine I will ever take another vaccine again in my life. And I certainly don't want the toxic spike protein in my body from this novavax vaccine. And then I wish more of the public would understand the difference between relative and absolute efficacy. They were really bamboozled on that one with the MRNA vaccines.
During the summer of 2021, I was researching vaccines. On the Novavax site, it said said the proteins in its vax were perfectly folded.. Folded proteins with nanoparticles sounds bad to me. I can’t find this on their website now. I was hoping I’d saved it, but I guess I didn’t. I saw on the current site Novavax is bragging about how quickly vaccines can be developed. They seem to think that’s a good thing. I’m not taking this one either. They could hold me down for it, of course.
I would think that not using your own cells as antigen factories has to be a plus when it comes to safety. If I had to take one, I suppose it would be this one, except that:
- I don't have to
- It's not available here in the USA
- The omicron spike is so different from the Wuhan spike that antibodies created by any of the existing vaccines are effectively useless now.
Thanks for all your work. I super appreciate it. I have had covid twice, once before vaccines and then omicron. I would not want to disturb this immunity with any kind of vaccine. And since many many more people have had covid than registered, it is certainly not a good idea to get vaccinated unless you know if you had it or not: or personally period. I imagine you know all this but I thought I would put in a quote from Time about the CDC study to determine how many people have had covid: "In the CDC’s new study, researchers used data on antibodies—proteins the body generates to fight off an infection—to better understand how many people in the U.S. previously had COVID-19. Antibodies made to fight off SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) are distinct from those produced by vaccines, so testing for these proteins can help determine if someone was previously infected, even unknowingly." Whoops I guess they slipped when they admitted that the antibodies from the disease are different than the vaccines.
Thanks for this. I've not been following new vax info (old vax info is appalling enough), after I found out that there is no safety data on most any of the vaccines, as reported by Robert Kennedy Jr in his book, when the CDC and FDA admitted they had no vaccine safety studies, after a freedom of information request was filed to see their safety studies. The same destroy the control group as for the mRNA therapies strategy had been used to obfuscate. And that (for example) influenza vaccine (which may or may not have efficacy, that relative risk is so much bs) results in greater susceptibility to other respiratory viruses (I don't have a link to research here but is findable with the right query) So I've decided to avoid vaccines as a matter of course.
Having said that, I always encourage people who ask me my opinion to do their own research. Your review is something I can guide them to, so thank you.
A piece conveying relative risk vs absolute risk would be a good article to write about, JMO.
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Thank you for this informative summary! I did have hopes in the beginning that this might be a better route for a vaccine since it was at least similar to some current vaccines and not wholly new like the mRNA vaccines. If indeed the spike protein itself is immunogenetic then I do wonder if there is even a point in trying to create a vaccine (when the cure is as bad or maybe worse than the disease). As it now has natural animal reservoirs it will never be eradicated so perhaps the shift in public health response should focus on improving our overall health as this is quite a survivable disease for the overwhelming majority of people.
I am in Australia, I have a friend who had NOVAVAX after one dose got shingles, extreme fatigue and skin lesions, large red blisters and was diagnosed with diabetes
Thank you for the good article, now that I'm finally reading it.
It seems to me that Novavax's potential market of people who want a vaccine but prefer a more traditional concoction would have been substantial if it would have been available in the U.S. in at least mid 2021. Now, however, the fiasco of the mRNA shots has hardened the position of most who have been able to avoid them, as well as many who took them. It's a hard pass on any COVID shot from here on out for a majority of the population.
I doubt if the delay in approval was for benign reasons, but whatever the case, I hope it's never approved in the U.S.
Thanks for this write-up. I have been saying for a while I believe Novavax will be "safer" because it doesn't force your body to create spike protein - and I stand by that until data shows me otherwise. However, Novavax shares the problem of the same old spike protein being used. Besides the potential cytotoxicity of the spike protein itself, using the old protein may set up the immune system to focus on the wrong thing...and lead to worsening outcomes for future variants. We shall see.
PS I think the FDA may possibly be slow walking Novavax because they know it's safer...and when VAERS shows the difference they won't be able to hide the mRNA problems anymore.
Thanks so much for the thorough rundown of novavax. 👍🏽💕 I don't imagine I will ever take another vaccine again in my life. And I certainly don't want the toxic spike protein in my body from this novavax vaccine. And then I wish more of the public would understand the difference between relative and absolute efficacy. They were really bamboozled on that one with the MRNA vaccines.
During the summer of 2021, I was researching vaccines. On the Novavax site, it said said the proteins in its vax were perfectly folded.. Folded proteins with nanoparticles sounds bad to me. I can’t find this on their website now. I was hoping I’d saved it, but I guess I didn’t. I saw on the current site Novavax is bragging about how quickly vaccines can be developed. They seem to think that’s a good thing. I’m not taking this one either. They could hold me down for it, of course.
Yep adjuvants are what cause the issues...
Even with the mrna shots, the lipid NANOPARTICLES caused issues for moderna even before COVID. Pfizer uses the same lnp patent!
I don't understand how people say it's spike protein, graphene, etc when lnp has a track record of being harmful.